Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[Dingus Mungus]

Ive found Tungsten Carbide plated mill bits, saw blades, and plates but no rods. I have access to standard Tungsten rods through my friends weilding shop, but a pure Tunsten rod is not fully inert to the reaction.

So I'll be getting pure tunsten welding rods for now, but I really need to find a WC plated rod of some sort.
I'm ordering tonight!  <-- "big grin"

[Dingus Mungus]

Update:
Ordered my stuff and found the cheapest fuel cell on the net. Safe free hydrogen power for less then 50$...
http://www.fuelcellstore.com/cgi-bin/fuelweb/view=Item/cat=61/product=950

[ResinRat2]

Hi everyone,

Just for your information. An attempt was made to chemically balance Linnard's electrolysis process so that the zinc electrode of experiment 13 would regenerate at a rate such that it would never need to be replaced.

The magnesium colloid level was slowly increased in the cell until it was well over 50 times the original level of Mg. (Magnesium colloid is the component that regenerates the zinc).


Zinc Regeneration: 2Zn⁺² + 2Mg_c--> 2Mg_c⁺² + 2Zn




The Ag level was also increased to over five times its original level in order to keep the hydrogen gas evolution at a good rate.


Hydrogen from Ag: 4Ag_c + 4H₂O --> 4Ag_c⁺ + 2H₂ + 4OH^-




Well even at this rediculously high level of Magnesium, the zinc would not replate and no oxygen came off the zinc electrode. This means no level of magnesium colloid (up to and including 50 times its original level) would cause the zinc electrode to regenerate. In fact, as the magnesium level increased to this high level, the production of hydrogen visibly appeared to decrease. So this was  hurting the hydrogen production, just as was feared. This is subjective, but it seems obvious. Also it appears this level of magnesium hurts solubility of the cell since a brown layer has begun to form on the bottom of the cell. This might be the silver ions beginning to precipitate, but this is just speculation. It might be something else happening.

So it must be concluded that with the cell designed as in Experiment #13, the eqilibrium of the cell cannot be chemically shifted to replate the zinc. Therefore the zinc electrode would eventually have to be replaced, or a power source (battery) would have to be connected to the electrodes to replate the zinc in order to get the cell working again.

This would still be a successful overunity device because the energy gained by the hydrogen gas produced would far exceed the small energy it would require to regenerate the zinc; or a new zinc electrode (cheap) could replace the depleted one. Then the hydrogen generation could begin again.

Personal preference is for the use of the battery, only because this would mean no other components, except water, would need to be added to the cell. It is suspected that if the zinc electrode had to be replaced several times it would eventually deplete the caustic (NaOH) and the OH^- ions would eventually be used up.



Oxygen generation: 2Zn⁺² + 4OH^- --> 2H₂O +2Zn + O₂



Using the battery for intermittent regeneration of the zinc seems to be the best option for long term, continuous operation.

This concludes my research into the Linnard Hydrogen Generation Patent Experiment #13. Its major advantage is the ability to generate hydrogen gas without the addition of any other power source (except intermittant regeneration of the zinc electrode) and without an exotherm. It is  believed that its use as a hydrogen source for fuel cells will be very popular once a reliable design can be developed. Also, it could be a major source of hydrogen once our economy finally makes the switch to this clean, unlimited resource.

It is also believed that the other experiments in Linnard's patent could be worth studying, especially the experiment with Aluminum/Sulfuric Acid cell which is described as almost "uncontrollable" for hydrogen generation.

Wonder what would happen if platinum electrodes were used? What if there were two cells at different stages of zinc oxidation and they were hooked up to each other in order to power each other? Maybe then you wouldn't even need a battery for zinc regeneration? Alas, it is for someone else to answer. Why should I have all the fun? (lol)

Thank you for your interest.

[pese]

Have anyone tried to use LEAD ?
This must also work and is cheaper to buy
Pes

[ResinRat2]

Hi Pese,

Lead could be used for this process and I believe more than one experiment outlined in Linnard's patent uses lead as one of the components. I wanted to stay away from lead for fear of toxicity. It was just a personal decision on my part, not that I thought it wouldn't work.

Thanks for your comment and interest.