Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Hmm, so we don't have a regenerative cell anymore? 

Hi Brian,

I am not working on this project right now, it was just a side observation of an experiment I tried. I am still going to do the normal cell composition using the zinc. I want it to be a self-runner.

Dave (RR2)

[payson]

ResinRat any ideas on what sort of time cycle would be good to replate the zinc as far as hho generation vs running current, 10/1, 4/1, 1/1 ?  Or something like that

[ResinRat2]

Hi Payson,

My reactor has two zinc electrodes on one side, and on the other side it will have a group of tungsten/carbide electrodes solder-fluxed together with one electrode protruding outside the reactor. This will be connected to one of the zinc electrodes and this will be the system that produces hydrogen and runs spontaneously without electricity. The hydrogen produced will run through two fuel cells. The first fuel cell will be about 5 watts of power and will be used to charge a battery or run a fan.

In the same chamber as the tungsten/carbide group will be a single 1/8" tungsten electrode not connected to the group. This will be connected to the other zinc electrode through the second fuel cell. This is about 1 watt of power and will be used to regenerate the second zinc electrode while the first zinc electrode is being used. Once per day the connections to the zinc electrodes will be switched so no electrode gets depleted.

I will post a diagram soon, right now I need to leave the house for an errand for a bit; but essentially, the hydrogen will be continuously given off while one zinc electrode is being consumed, and at the same time the second zinc electrode will be regenerating. So it will be a continuous process. Oxygen will also be given off as well, continuously as the zinc is regenerating.

This is the plan, it needs long term testing. The reactor is almost finished. I had to intall the tungsten/carbide electrodes, the gas ports, the pins to hold the lid down, and a gasket sealed with high pressure silicone. Almost done.

Thanks for your interest.

[Dingus Mungus]

@ RR2
I did those PSU driven electrolysis experiments you requested. I found that the solution will heat up with time, but after an hour at 15V@4.5A the chamber was hot to the touch, but no where near boiling. So it seemed to be cooler than normal due to the lower resistance of the solution. The most interesting effect observed was that the cathode got really hot and was putting off all of the observed gas, while the anode was cool and didn't seem to put off any observable bubbles. After examinining the electrodes it was apparent both eletrodes are being eaten away where the solution meets the air. It doesn't appear to be oxidation though... I don't know what is happening. I'll upload some pics later... I was thinking about attempting the same experiment with pure DI water for compairison, but I realized without a way to compair gas production rates the data would be inconclusive. I'll have to wait untill I get to my new place to do this right. Also I'm looking at buying a scientific glass electrolysis vessel! I'll have to get custom electrodes made, but it'll really help take the guess work out on catalyst materials research.

I can't wait to see the new reactor!
~Dingus Mungus

[keithturtle]

Yo, Dingus;
Can y'all capture and measure yer gas?   Try my e-box idea... it should be big enough
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4510f63fa5531b08549f3a45d64e23fb&topic=2057.320
to hold the reactor,
then send the gas to an inverted graduate filled with water on pge 45 of that same thread (sparkling there in the background).

Use a shopvac to evac all the air, but keep in mind the water column above the reservoir level exerts a vacuum and won't give true volumetric readings.

That don't matter none, though, as long as yer making comparisons.

Turtle