Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[Kator01]

olk,

here another german publication, i someone here in germany does further research on this very important
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I deals with the electro-chemical behaviour of tungesten-carbide in KOH-Dilution.

Unortunately one has to be a member of this scientific Info-Service

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/107593358/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Kator

[ResinRat2]

Hi everyone,

Well, not exactly the results we had all hoped for, but the truth is always important.

I connected the AA - 1.5 volt battery's positive side to the tungsten electrode and the negative to the zinc. The vigorous production of gas (oxygen as described in the patent)  from the zinc electrode continued then slowed down after three hours. Examination showed zinc was redepsited on the zinc electrode and the carbide electrode began to have a whitish appearance.

I apologize to everyone that I did not catch the paragraphs on the patent that did describe this possibility with this experiment. I was going by the initial descriptions, which suggested that all the components were regenerated. It seems the reaction rates are not the same and the reduction of zinc does not keep up with its oxidation. This was described farther into the body of the patent.

I will study the other experiments to see if this was resolved without the use of input energy. This may take some time.

Just for your information, the tungsten electrode is again producing gas at a slow, steady rate. So we are most likely again producing hydrogen.

Thank you for your interest

[pg46]

Thanks Resinrat2

Good of you to experiment with Linnards work. I wonder if maybe we've not overlooked experiment #12 which uses nickel instead of tungsten carbide? It says the production of gas is "vigorous" also. I didn't see where one was claimed to be better than the other or maybe I've just misunderstood the report. Certainly though nickel is probably more available and cheaper too then tungsten. Who knows too, perhaps even stainless will work also in its place?
It doesn't seem too bad to me to have to replenish the zinc. On mobile equipment such as a car we can just use the available 12vdc system to do the job. One could have 2 cells for this application, while one is having its zinc replenished with dc current from the car battery system the other can be doing its job of producing hydrogen for the IC engine.
Keep up the good work!

Best,

[ResinRat2]

Stefan,

Just to fill out my data. I did a voltage reading across the electrodes and I measured a reading of 0.764V.

I will be ending this experiment now. I changed the electrodes before I took this reading, new galvanized nail, and six - 1/16" tungsten electrodes wrapped together. The production of hydrogen gas has increased relative to the increased area of the tungsten electrodes, just as I expected.

I will be doing further study of the patent before I attempt any other experiments. The solution itself had pieces of zinc at the bottom of the beaker that fell off from the nail that had zinc deposited on it when the battery was connected. The solution was clear until that point. Some small deposits of precipitate were at the bottom of the beaker, some slightly brownish, others off white. Tiny-sized precipitate.

In summary I have pulled off, since starting the experiment, a total of about 30 grams of water (approx) from the electrolysis process and evaporation. The system does produce hydrogen, but the reduction of zinc does not keep up with zinc oxidation. The process stopped somewhere between 32 and 63 hours of the beginning of the experiment.

The temperature of the water never felt warm, always cool, as if at room temp. I did not use a thermometer because I never thought of it until now.

Thank you everyone for your support and interest during this experiment. Please feel free to email me any suggestions or questions you may have. I will give you all the answers I can. This is not over yet. I still have much I want to investigate out of this process. I will keep you posted on future ideas, experiments, data, etc.

[Dingus Mungus]

Ok After diving in to the patent a little deeper I have found something from the patent that helps explain our experiment 13 replication failure. In subsections 55-57 it discusses the importance of the catalytic colloids and their electronegitivity relationships to the electrolytes and electrodes. The reson for this is simple: if the Zinc anode has a electronegativity of 1.65 and the colloidal Mg has a electronegativity of 1.31 and the silver has a electronegativity of 1.93; after the silver particles are digested via oxidation, the Zinc has a greater pull on any oxidation occuring in the cell. As it demonstates in the patent equations 29-34 the colloids should be the metals undergoing oxidation but then the particles should be releasing the oxidation as elemental oxygen. I believe it is the relative electronegitivitys and production rates involved that are perhaps causing this test cell to fail, but these galvanic reactions are way over my head! I'm going to try and find a chemistry student from the local college to help me. HAHAHAHA! Really though the reactions listed in those sections explain the colloids funtions in the cell, and it appears that their actual function is to regenerate themselfs with left over energy from the other colloid reactions, thereby releasing elemental oxygen or a base back in to the solution. I believe this process is happening, but at such a slow rate that once the silver is fully oxidized the oxygen then goes after the zinc. I'm not sure if this info helps anyone but I would like to hear back from others with more knowlege in this area. I still plan to build a duplication of this cell to test its life span and metalic consumtion rate, but this is not going to be as easy or simple as we first believed.