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Overunity Machines Forum



Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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dlwammo

@ResinRat2

Keep on pluggin' away at it. 
Gut feeling tells me that if anyone besides Dr.G is going pull it off - you're the one that will!
Go Rat Go....
Don't mess with old farts... age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!

rozzaa72

WOW I LOVE THIS,THIS IS FANTASTIC, I BELIEVE WHOLE HEARTEDLY THIS WILL WORK,BUT EVEN IF IT DOESNT, YOU DESERVE A GOLD MEDAL FOR ALL THE EFFORT RESINRAT2. HEY DINGUS MUNGUS, THAT IS A TERRIBLE STORY OF THE COPS RAIDING YOUR HOME,JUST BLOODY TERRIBLE. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WERE DOING THAT RAISED THEIR ATTENTION. ROZ

Davetech

I thought this might be of interest, unabashedly stolen from http://www.silver-colloids.com under their reports section:


"Ionic Silver Solutions -
    The vast majority of products labeled and sold as colloidal silver fall into this category due to the low degree of manufacturing complexity and resulting low cost of production. The silver content in these products consists of both silver ions and silver particles. Typically, 90% of the silver content is in the form of ionic silver and the remaining 10% of the silver content is in the form of silver particles. The silver ions are produced by electrolysis and may be described as ?dissolved silver?. Products produced by electrolysis are frequently described as "electro colloids". Because the majority of the silver content in these products is dissolved silver rather than metallic silver particles, it would be more technically accurate to describe these products as silver solutions. 

    Confusingly, ads for these products frequently claim that silver ions are small silver particles or describe the product as consisting of ionic silver particles. Silver ions are not the same as silver particles and the two terms are not interchangeable. Ionic silver is also referred to as monatomic silver and silver hydrosol by some producers who choose not to describe their products using the scientifically correct terminology. These are marketing terms used to hide the truth that what is being sold is an ionic silver solution. For more details read About Ionic Silver.

    How To Tell If A Product Is Mostly Ionic Silver

    Silver solutions are typically clear like water or have a slight yellow tint. These products are clear because silver that is dissolved in water looks just like sugar or salt that is dissolved in water; it has no visible appearance. The producers of ionic silver solutions will suggest that colloidal silver should look like clear water, but this is incorrect.

    Companies that sell ionic silver claim that their product is "true colloidal silver" in an attempt to confuse the buyer. Do not be fooled. If the product is clear, then it is ionic silver, not a true silver colloid. Colloidal particles, when present in sufficient concentration, absorb visible light causing the colloid to exhibit an "apparent color". The apparent color is the complement of the absorbed wavelength. Silver ions do not absorb visible light and therefore appear as clear colorless liquids.

    Many producers of ionic silver recommend that the product be stored only in glass containers. Some specify only amber or cobalt glass bottles because their products are photosensitive and deteriorate when exposed to light. True colloids do not have these issues.

    How To Test for Ionic Silver

    To figure out whether a solution is ionic silver, you only need add chloride ions. Common table salt, which is sodium chloride, will do. If silver ions are present the chloride ions will combine with the silver ions and create a white, cloudy appearance. To form a cloud that is visible requires that a sufficient concentration of silver ions be present, typically about 10 ppm or above. Simply place 1-2 ounces of ionic silver in a clear glass. Add a few grains of table salt. Observe whether, as the salt dissolves, a white cloud of silver chloride forms in the solution. If so, eventually, the entire solution will turn cloudy. If more salt is added, the white silver chloride will become denser until all the silver ions have combined with the available chlorine ions. If no silver ions are present then no white cloud will form. Here?s the rub: Some products will not make a white cloud of silver chloride when table salt is added because they contain no silver at all, or very little silver. Believe it or not, lab analysis has shown that some "silver" products actually contain no silver!

Techno-Babble, Misleading Language and Bogus Science

The term colloidal means particles not ions, but producers of ionic silver products will try to convince the buyer that their product is a silver colloid. The common thread in most advertisements selling ionic silver products (labeled as colloidal silver) is to claim that ions are silver particles, or they try to blur the distinction by using the terms interchangeably. Another common trick is to display images made from a Transmission Electron Microscope (TEM) that they claim shows the small particles found in their products. These images do not show the silver particles in their products."

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I have just finished walking all over the town I live in and none of the drug stores or health food stores could supply me with the colloids. So I strated looking around the internet and, perhaps luckily, this was the first page I happened upon. I've read all the posts in this topic, and have not seen quality of colloids discussed anywhere.

If we want true comparisons of systems and results, we will need to use the same quality of ingredients.

I can't even find crystal Draino for the sodium hydroxide. Too many people were using it to make meth and so most stores won't even stock it.

Davetech



Davetech

I was able to locate Sodium Hydroxide at http://www.unitednuclear.com/chem.htm at a pretty reasonable price.

@ Dingus - re: reply # 113...  the link http://www.silvermountainminerals.com/magnesium.html for the colloidal magnesium 404's on me. So do any other links to Silver Mountain Minerals which I obtained from a search engine. Perhaps they have gone belly up?  Or didn't pay their site bill...

The link to purestcolloids / Mesosilver works fine and, according to silver-colloids.com, it is good stuff. Silver-Colloids analyzes silver colloid products and posts the results on their site. Mesosilver was rated one of the best. A bit pricey though... $25 USD for 250 ml.   

So now I need to find an outlet for the colloidal magnesium.

I've got the zinc covered. I was welding and accidentally set the torch down with the tip pointed at a pile of late model pennies which just happened to be sitting there and, umm, well you know....  ::)

                           
The zinc sheets below were splash cast onto a steel I-beam. Then I broke off about 3" of a hack saw blade, shaped it on a grinder to fit my hand held jig saw, and used it to cut the the sheets out of the casting (held in a vice). I was pleased with the result. The sheets are of surprisingly uniform thickness to have been made by such a crude method.

brnbrade

Hi Davetech

I am thinking as alternative use Hydroxide of Magnesium.
Finds easy in drugstore.
I don't imagine if had worked well.

regards