Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[hartiberlin]

Yes, the patent is really a wonderful help to understand all the processes, but it really takes time to reread it all a few times and also understand it....

Maybe we can discuss this here more informatively, if we use the chemical equations,that we think are going on in this cell...

By the way you can build yourself a fuelcell, if you use 2 graphite rods in a saltwater  baker and have around each rod some more conductive graphite powder. The two graphite compartments do not have to touch. Then put in one beneath it hydrogen and in the other beneath it oxygen. This will create then a oxy and hydrogen powered battery. It could be, that one still needs a catalyst inside the graphite powder to break down the molecular H2 and O2 bindings, so the gas will charge up better the graphite...

@ResinRat
Could you please try to substitute the Tungstenrod with a graphite rod and see, if this will generate as well gas ? Thanks.

[pg46]

Just For Fun-

I made myself some colloidal silver and also some colloidal magnesium. I don't have a PPM tester so I won't even venture to guess as to what concentration they may be. I used distilled water to make each batch.
I mixed the two colloidal solutions in equal parts and added a bit of sodium hydroxide.
I placed in the solution a zinc electrode and one nickel plated electrode. This configuration  produced 0.5 volts. Then I connected the two electrodes via copper wire and bubbles began to form at the nickel electrode(+) I didn't see any bubbles at the zinc electrode(-) I tried replacing the nickel plated electrode with one of stainless steel and I observed about the same production of bubbles as with the nickel one. I can't be sure of the quantity of gases produced since I am not measuring them at this point. Also haven't collected and burnt the gases to determine if its hydrogen or not.
You remove the wire that connects the two electrodes and the process(bubbles) then stop.
I didn't have any tungsten/carbide handy so thought I would try it with other readily available materials.
Just wanted to report my initial findings.

Best,

[hartiberlin]

Does anybody know a cheap catalyst, that breaks down H2 into H and H  and    O2 gas into O and O ? Normally this is done via Platin plating in graphite based fuelcells, but this is too expensive...

You can charge a graphite based fuelcell also via a current, so if you take the above graphite cell I described and apply more than 2 Volts, the current will charge it up and it will work as a supercapacitor. Try it, it is really amazing what it can store this way... Now we must find out, how it can be charged up by the gas itsself effectively via catalysts...

[hartiberlin]

@PG46
Many thanks for confirming this experiment. Maybe you can let it run and see how long it will generate gas and if the electrodes will be consumed.

If you have a graphite rod, maybe from an old mono cell zink-carbon battery, please try this one as one electrode, then you get a higher voltage.

Can you please measure the current flowing, when you short it out via a DC ampmeter ?
Many thanks.

[mikestocks2006]

Does anybody know a cheap catalyst, that breaks down H2 into H and H  and    O2 gas into O and O ? Normally this is done via Platin plating in graphite based fuelcells, but this is too expensive...

You can charge a graphite based fuelcell also via a current, so if you take the above graphite cell I described and apply more than 2 Volts, the current will charge it up and it will work as a supercapacitor. Try it, it is really amazing what it can store this way... Now we must find out, how it can be charged up by the gas itsself effectively via catalysts...

Hi Stefan,
I posted above regarding chemaloy and an old patent, claiming only plain water and the chemaloy as catalyst breaking down water.
Interesting find also here on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ALTERNATIVE-FREE-ENERGY-CHEMALLOY-HYDROGEN-GENERATOR_W0QQitemZ170048488351QQihZ007QQcategoryZ41980QQcmdZViewItem

A general note regarding dissimilar metals.
When we place dissimilar metals in any electrolyte solution we get a galvanic effect, basically we've created a battery, where the metals are consumed/altered.
The Idea for a great invention would be to create H without destroying the metals but only consuming water, or if any reverse plating is required it needs to take less energy to do than the energy produced by the device, otherwise we just created a low efficiency battery.