Torque avalanche...

[iacob alex]

   ....as a process,can be a parallel,paraphrase that takes a pattern from  the well known mass gravity avalanche,an increasing  charge of energy.

   When a long arm-short arm configuration (with two equal masses at their ends),is free to make a full(up-down) fall,we have in fact a (difference) torque,thrust similar to an avalanche.

   If the up-down fall is longer(time...height...slope) we have a stronger and stronger phenomenon.

   With the same "input" (arm difference) at the "up" position,we can get out a greater and greater "output",at the "down" position...if we play the height/time factor.

   Avalanches are a natural phenomenon on a slope/inclined plane in which mass can respond to the pull of gravity .

   A torque avalanche can be considered alike?

   Avalanches are born from a weakness in the snow...

   Torque avalanches can be born from a small difference of torque("weakness of equilibrium"),that is free to develop,extend in height/time.

   The whole key to avalanches is gravity.

   The whole key to a gravity powered device is an avalanche process,too?


   All the Bests!  /  Alex

[Alexioco]

   ....as a process,can be a parallel,paraphrase that takes a pattern from  the well known mass gravity avalanche,an increasing  charge of energy.

   When a long arm-short arm configuration (with two equal masses at their ends),is free to make a full(up-down) fall,we have in fact a (difference) torque,thrust similar to an avalanche.

   If the up-down fall is longer(time...height...slope) we have a stronger and stronger phenomenon.

   With the same "input" (arm difference) at the "up" position,we can get out a greater and greater "output",at the "down" position...if we play the height/time factor.

   Avalanches are a natural phenomenon on a slope/inclined plane in which mass can respond to the pull of gravity .

   A torque avalanche can be considered alike?

   Avalanches are born from a weakness in the snow...

   Torque avalanches can be born from a small difference of torque("weakness of equilibrium"),that is free to develop,extend in height/time.

   The whole key to avalanches is gravity.

   The whole key to a gravity powered device is an avalanche process,too?


   All the Bests!  /  Alex

Problem is, an avalanche does not have to go back up hill... Its like dropping a stone from a great height, it can slip out of your hand with ease yet when it hits the bottom, it will make a dent, so its the same with an avalanche, it gets strong as the pull of gravity increases in time and creates a mess at the bottom but that energy it creates going down wont be enough to get it back up...

[iacob alex]

     Really,thinking about power,as you wrote..."an avalanche does not have to go back up hill...",as a whole,but a small share of it.

     All that we need is to initiate this one,again.

     Then,why..."that energy it creates going down wont be enough to get it back up...' !?

     The input asks for a fraction from the output,only.

     The same tiny input,applied on a longer slope/inclined plane has as a result,a more energetic output.

     Or,in  a "wheel language",longer and longer arms,but with the same long arm-short arm difference.

     If you like abstracts,take a look at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Stellarotor.htm   ,then "Drafts" ,then "Mail0004"(Gravity wheel concept).

     Goethe said that "Whatever you cannot understand,you cannot possess".

     The first step is the simple observation...



   All the Bests!  /  Alex

[Alexioco]

     Really,thinking about power,as you wrote..."an avalanche does not have to go back up hill...",as a whole,but a small share of it.

     All that we need is to initiate this one,again.

     Then,why..."that energy it creates going down wont be enough to get it back up...' !?

     The input asks for a fraction from the output,only.

     The same tiny input,applied on a longer slope/inclined plane has as a result,a more energetic output.

     Or,in  a "wheel language",longer and longer arms,but with the same long arm-short arm difference.

     If you like abstracts,take a look at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Stellarotor.htm   ,then "Drafts" ,then "Mail0004"(Gravity wheel concept).

     Goethe said that "Whatever you cannot understand,you cannot possess".

     The first step is the simple observation...



   All the Bests!  /  Alex

I agree that a long arm with fall further meaning that it creates more energy but its still got to get back to the top of the wheel and over to start again, so how do you intend to do that?

[iacob alex]

         Hi Alexioco!
     
    Torque turns things.

    Talking about the Mail0004,if we increase the arms,we can have,  for the same(constant) arm difference a longer/stronger fall in gravity.

    For the same input/"remake"  mgh{mg(R3-R1)}=constant,we can get a greater and greater output,due to an  ever increasing kinetic energy(velocity...)...as a rolling mass on a longer slope.

   The main point is to have output>>input...it seems we have it,because of the specificity of the gravity flow(avalanche).

   Regarding your point of view...how to"get back to the top of the wheel(in fact we have a lever,a two spokes "wheel" if you like...),we must move the mobile mass  M2,only...on a short distance R3-R1,only...so  not from the bottom to the top position of the whole diameter,let's say.

  Aldo Costa's monumental wheel,with two spokes only ,can be one between others solutions...
 


    All the Bests!  /  Alex