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New member: A Newman motor replicator.

Started by Michelinho, August 02, 2008, 06:16:27 PM

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Michelinho


Thanks,
The motor runs well as I am still in the initial phase of the whole project. I still need to increase it's speed to a minimum of 200 rpm for the axial flux alternator. The only way to achieve it is by raising the input voltage to about 230/250 volts.
The variable power supply will allow me to do that and have it test under the oscilloscope. The recovery circuit will be added after the initial tests and retested for comparison. Then it will be time to design the final power supply probably from a cheap 12v/220-240vac inverter as a starting unit then with a 1:1 transformer, rectifying bridge and the rest neatly enclosed in a box with external connectors.
The electronic section is handled by my son-in-law as my knowledge is limited partly because I never had a need for it. I am not looking for OU but wont spit at it if occurs.
The Newman Motor secret is mainly in the commutator and it is also the first thing most replicators sidestep for simplicity reason with reed switches and relays. Its other secrets are the larger the better (for both coil(s) and heavy magnetic rotor(s)) and high voltage to supply the large coil(s).
Hat's off Joseph Newman.

Michel

NerzhDishual


@Michelinho,

Just an half baked idea:
With such elaborated machines you should be able to close the loop.

Why not connect your second motor to you first motor.
This first motor could, for example, charge a capacitor and
you should be  able to close the loop after having
"grid-fed" your first motor for a short while.

Jan Louis Naudin was able to get his Newman motor
self ruining during 5 minutes. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nwjlself.htm
You have 2 advanced Newman's motors so you should be able
to perform better. That is all I wish you.

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Michelinho

Hi NerzhDishual,

I have already contacted Jean Louis Naudin about my first contraption as it showed an unusual effect causing it to accelerate to 6,000 rpm without a close loop in the motor. The ground was connected to one side of the coil and the positive from my power supply to the main shaft, the motor with a small initial push started accelerating. I froze the design until we got it on the scope and analyze the results, from there with a few tweaks we got another 1,000 rpm on top of it. I sent him a video of the effect and he could not hint me on why it was acting that way but we found out not long after.
As closing the loop with the initial motor, it is not a good idea because the current version of the motor can do it alone with this commutator and I am building this unit for continuous use so the simpler the better. My 1st law for the project is "Keep it simple" and the second "Can be fixed with pliers and wire". The electronic components will be optional, not mandatory for every day use.
The V2.0 of the Newman Motor has enormous BEMF and that I tested crudely with wet fingers on the coil's connectors. Turned by hand at about 100 rpm, I can hardly hold them there as it feels like the old 15kv ignition coil. When energized with the battery pack, I just can't hold them on as my arm is jerked off from reflex.
The axial flux alternator that I am designing will have 3 magnet rotors and 2 stators for energy production and possibly a high voltage subsection just to energize the motor but that is still in a planning state. It is of the usual air core design as used in current DIY windmills. One thing I hope to do is couple their magnetic fields to gain efficiency but that might be tough to accomplish as the resultant magnetic ball will be hard to visualize even with our Gauss meter.
It's far from done, many hurdles ahead still.

Take care,

Michel




P.S.: The image show the V1.0 Newman Motor in generator mode turned by hand, the signal is unusual and pointed us to the solution.
***The time stamp is not right on the picture, the clock function was not set on the camera.***

NerzhDishual


@Michelinho,

Obviously, your are far more advanced that me in all these kind of Newman's motor matters.

I wish I could be able to build a "Little someting" that would "'merely" self run...

I'm a  follower of the Shadoks's wisdom that asserts:
"The more it fails, the more chance of success".
Private Joke  ;D

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Michelinho


Hi NerzhDishual,

QuoteObviously, your are far more advanced that me in all these kind of Newman's motor matters.

My understanding of the Newman Motor comes from hundreds of videos (thanks Ray0energy) , forum browsing, reading everything available for the last year and many brainstorming sessions with my son-in-law. Still it has many more deep concept secrets to uncover.

I have a box full of paper with ideas and sketches filling all sides.  ::)

Ex: for the multi-segment commutator, a few hours of research, a month of sketches and a few hours to put it together. When you get the idea of how something work and you can visualize it in your head, the execution is easy. Visualizing a multi-segment commutator, specially the Newman's one is not apparent. His patent description of the commutator is good but it doesn't tell all, that part I am proud to say I decoded it but the final merit belongs to Joseph Newman who might not be with us for long as he is now acting like Mayer before his final departure. Great guy fighting a rotten system.

QuoteI wish I could be able to build a "Little someting" that would "'merely" self run...

Don't ever feel sorry for yourself about not getting OU or a self runner because very few have. It is the cherry on the cake but certainly not as filling as the cake. Trying has a lot more merits IMHO. Always have a paper and pencil handy, inspiration and creativity is not something you command. I designed my V2 Newman Motor in bed loaded on painkillers (2 herniated discs)2 days after coming home from the hospital.

Take care,

Michel