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Overunity Machines Forum



Squared Newman motor, Can it works?

Started by Magnethos, August 09, 2008, 05:57:50 AM

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Michelinho


Hi,

A magnetic motor can take any shape you want, some designs are just more or less efficient.

A Joseph Newman motor is a magnetic motor with a special commutator. The commutator is the Newman's motor particularity. His commutator is design to create torque, bemf and uses HIGH voltage.

A good analysis of the Newman Motor: http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/newman.htm

QuoteMatter in motion. Back in the early 1960's Joseph Newman wondered what was the mechanical essence, the nature, of this "matter in motion." In Chapter Two of his book -- THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN -- Joseph Newman describes the fundamental essence of a magnetic field as a particle having a "gyroscopic spin." This gyroscopic action is fundamental to understanding the mechanical nature of electromagnetism.

When one understands the gyroscopic characteristics of the matter in motion contained within an electromagnetic field, then one begins to recognize a better mechanical means of harnessing this kinetic energy. To generate the largest possible magnetic field within a copper coil and therefore to have access to greater numbers of "matter in motion" -- (for purposes of simplicity of understanding, Joseph Newman refers to this matter in motion as gyroscopic particles) -- one must input large amounts of voltage to achieve maximum atom alignment in the copper coil. When this high voltage input occurs, the copper coil atoms release their kinetic energy in the form of a magnetic field.

QuoteJoseph Newman supplies an external electrical stimulus to his coil (and special commutator system) that generates the magnetic field containing the gyroscopic particles (matter in motion). This external electrical stimulus takes the form of high voltage -- and the higher the better until maximum atom alignment of the coil is achieved. At the same time the current is kept as low as possible to minimize resistance; thereby the Newman motor always runs "cool." The externally applied high voltage is not "consumed" by the system -- it operates in the same manner as the hydraulic system in an automobile. The reservoir of brake fluid is not "used up" but supplies a continual hydraulic pressure to the automobile's brake system. In a similar fashion the high input voltage (and low current) acts as an electrical 'hydraulic' pressure to continually realign the atoms within the motor's copper coil. The continual collapse and expansion of the copper coil's magnetic field creates the mechanical torque of the motor. (The special commutator system achieves this continual collapse and expansion of the magnetic field.)

The net increase of external electrical energy from the system directly comes from the energy produced internally within the copper coil. This net energy is greater than the small amount of current originally inputed into the system along with the high voltage. In the final analysis where is the excess energy coming from? Answer: from the atoms of the copper coil within the motor/generator.

Dr. Roger Hastings, a physicist who has worked extensively with Joseph Newman over a number of years, has calculated that this system is so conversion efficient that it may take decades (or far longer) to be able to measure any appreciable mass loss in the coil.

I hope this helps you in your Newman's motor researches.

Michel


Michelinho


 
The Newman Motor concept.

My recent replication tries to implement those concepts. Big coil, big magnetic rotor and the special Newman commutator: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5287.0.html

In generator mode, turned by hand, it produces 180 vac. I used over 5 miles of awg 31 magnet wire, Newman used 55 miles of magnet wire. My rotor weights in at 1 kg, his about 300 kg. He drives his motor at around 2,000v and mine will work on about 250v.

The square coil is good only if you use a thin square magnet. If it is a big square magnet, you need a rectangular coil so the edges clear. A extended rectangular coil creates two magnetic vortices at each end of it and opposed*.  The round coil creates two magnetic vortices in the center.  The North magnetic pole of the rotor is propelled by this vortex with a much stronger force than using the Bedini principle. This concept becomes evident when when you study the magnetic vortices produced by each poles of a magnet. The Bedini system is very different as it fires (pulsed or not) at a specific locations (n-poles) on a rotor. He uses the strongest pole only, the North end.

Hope this helps,

Michel


*See Howard Johnson paper on magnetic vortices. "The Secret World of Magnets (http://cheniere.org/sales/buy-ma.htm)" I have seen an online version of it last spring.

Michelinho


The Bedini/Newman motor would be hard to do as magnets are used differently and the rotor concept is different and I think close to incompatible. A Bedini rotor would be inefficient in a Newman coil and a Bedini drive would be too weak for a Newman rotor.

In the Bedini setup, the wheel with magnets (rotor) is the commutator as in the Newman's motor  the wheel with magnets (rotor) is one big magnet and cannot be used as an efficient commutator.

That should narrow down your search somemore,

Michel

onlov

Quote from: khabe on August 09, 2008, 03:29:30 PM
The same but upgraded version,
See rotating outer back iron, flange for and plastic housing/frame helps to fix windings from on one side (fixed to face bearing holder)

Regards,
khabe

You have very nice consepts for the Newman motor. Original motor is big and ineffective and it has big distributed inductance.

Michelinho


Hi kahbe,

I like the simple Axial version. It has much potential for a nice magnetic motor.

2  90 degree V configured coils in close proximity near the shaft of the motor. The 4 magnets would have to be rotated from your design position or cylindrical magnets could be use for more power or axially magnetized rectangular or square magnets. The coils in series or parallel can be fed with a  simple commutator to complete the design.

The others look more like the current industrial design but the axial one I like very much.

Take care,

Michel