Emulsifying Brown's Gas

[gotoluc]

Yeah I think its the only way forward at the moment, that is mixing water/fuel.

I was originally exploding water using sparks using gotolucs circuit, after seeing my own results and reading others, Im more and more convinced that it is not possible to run the engine like that at the moment.

I remember pouring used veg oil from a take away and I see some water mixed with it. I use veg oil because I used to run my car on straight veg for about 2 years with no problem until the clutch went.

The only question is, if we mix 50/50, I wonder if the energy is also reduced to 50%? I hope not 

Hi Chris31, good work on your part I also ran used veggie oil in my VW Golf some years back. I was also going to try it in my half GEET plasma engine but I see you beat me to it .. I still have about 15 gallons of the oil left.

Keep up the great work!

Luc

[goldenequity]

I think it's important to know...
Water molecules are polar.
They assemble/align themselves loosely in an end-to-end, north to south configuration.

This defines/creates what we call "surface tension" individually and collectively.
Oil molecules are non polar.  They don't align in any structured fashion.
Without getting too crazy here.... this is why they separate,
The water molecules have the strength of their attraction to one another and "line up" so to speak.
And their strength is in numbers.... the more they can migrate and re-assemble the more they will.
Hence the "bigger" bubbles in the microsope pic.

Emulsions are formed by breaking the surface tension (polar alignment) of water at a molecular level.
You can do this chemically.... with surfactants (detergents).

The Nanomizer is doing it with magnetic field (and fluid dynamics) destroying the water bond both
molecularly (4% comprising the "larger" H2O bubbles) and atomically (hh bubbles and O bubbles)
if only long enough for the oil to surround and insulate both the positive HH FROM the negative O.

Remember em-fuels above microsopy (above) and their claim....
that there's only about 4% remaining as liquid water...
which is the only thing that they can get to centrifuge out.
That is an incredible feat.

So.... all that to say this:
When we say 50/50 water and fossil fuel ... that REALLY puts the wrong image into our head.
It's probably more correct to say that their emulsion is:

• 50% fossil fuel
  4% water
  15.33% Oxygen
  30.66% Hydrogen

or

• 54% Liquid
  46% Gas

THAT sounds a whole lot better than "half water" doesn't it?

Cheers to all you good people out there....

[kremlin01]

Golden E. still looking good thanks for the info clear drawings etc:
thinking of mixing spliting liquids, have you looked at this tech: http://www.advancedbiofuel.net/Technology.htm
Ok, jim griggs came up with this tech: some years ago, mainly for the heating industry, but now obviously moving on to other things.
Also this is top quality, top price engineering. But I have seen very basic attempts on the web that have seemed to mimic, and get the results.
Search jim griggs, maybe worth a look.

Regards, Bren

[goldenequity]

Thanks for that Bren... I checked it out.
They don't give away too much about their process....
but it looks like they use "water hammer" to effect the mechanical mixing by cavitation....
they also infer nothing in regards to hh and O.....
so I would say you're right.....that they are about emulsifying
and thoroughly blending 2 (or  more) LIQUIDS to make a blended biofuel/biodiesel product.
Thanks for this.

[goldenequity]

Jim Griggs developed the "Hydrosonic Pump" which is now commercialized by http://www.hydrodynamics.com/,HydroDynamics, inc.
Thanks for this...
It is probably the same technology/device that Advance Biofuels is using to mix their product with.
It uses cavitation to effect the mechanical mixing.

However, HydroDynamics DOES go on to say that it is perfectly capable of mixing liquid and gas....
but it should be kept in mind that it also is being touted as a "heater".... the cavitation causes friction!
You can watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBxpn6odtcA

I'm still much more impressed with this process...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8qHKwiBvhI