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Emulsifying Brown's Gas

Started by goldenequity, August 24, 2008, 05:39:29 PM

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goldenequity

Here's the simple setup described above: :)


ramset

GE    ionizing water,  HV effects in water , electrostatic effects in water, http://www.stifflerscientific.com/ 
                                 Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

goldenequity

@ Chet..... thx I'll chek it out  :)

@ all
OK.... your not going to believe this.... allright, sure you will, there's nothing new under the sun..[Ecclesiastes]...
Doing more research on emulsifying ..... did you know there's more than one kind of emulsion? there are at least 4!...
You can get Oil in Water.... or Water in Oil..... to name two. ::)
We want Water in Oil.... and only 4% or so .... the rest we want to be micron-bubbles... so we should get a nice creamy white emulsion. ;)

I found a 1975 patent tonight on a simple setup that makes an emulsion of oil and water down to 1-2 microns!
check it out:  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4009117.html
Guess what?
It's exactly the setup I posted (this afternoon) (except he added a nozzel.... so I updated / included one!).  And, oh yeah.... he found that
they had MUCH better results in shear and agitation by using an OPEN impeller vs.a CLOSED impeller.  :o

Instead of bleeding in Brown's gas of course,
he was bleeding in water (and a surfactant 1-3%)..... but the incredible part is:

  • 1. by allowing it to recirculate through the pump and out the nozzel 4-5 times.... they repeatedly got 90+% of their water molecules down to 1-2 microns!  If you can do that with liquid.... you can CERTAINLY do it with bubbles!
    and...
    2. HE SOLD THE PATENT TO SUN OIL COMPANY WHO NOW OWNS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)

This thing is I think all but done!  No ultrasonics needed.  This patent and the guy's simple testimony has me convinced that this thing is E-Z !!
I'm thinking Uncle Harry can easily make this in his back yard and run his furnace and truck with it and save (I'm hoping) 40% on his fuel price this winter..... with tiny bubbles!  :)
Peace on Earth.... Goodwill to men.... Big Oil kiss my ass. ;D

gotoluc

Quote from: goldenequity on September 04, 2008, 02:09:24 AM
@ Chet..... thx I'll chek it out  :)

@ all
OK.... your not going to believe this.... allright, sure you will, there's nothing new under the sun..[Ecclesiastes]...
Doing more research on emulsifying ..... did you know there's more than one kind of emulsion? there are at least 4!...
You can get Oil in Water.... or Water in Oil..... to name two. ::)
We want Water in Oil.... and only 4% or so .... the rest we want to be micron-bubbles... so we should get a nice creamy white emulsion. ;)

I found a 1975 patent tonight on a simple setup that makes an emulsion of oil and water down to 1-2 microns!
check it out:  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4009117.html
Guess what?
It's exactly the setup I posted (this afternoon) (except he added a nozzel.... so I updated / included one!).  And, oh yeah.... he found that
they had MUCH better results in shear and agitation by using an OPEN impeller vs.a CLOSED impeller.  :o

Instead of bleeding in Brown's gas of course,
he was bleeding in water (and a surfactant 1-3%)..... but the incredible part is:

  • 1. by allowing it to recirculate through the pump and out the nozzel 4-5 times.... they repeatedly got 90+% of their water molecules down to 1-2 microns!  If you can do that with liquid.... you can CERTAINLY do it with bubbles!
    and...
    2. HE SOLD THE PATENT TO SUN OIL COMPANY WHO NOW OWNS IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::)

This thing is I think all but done!  No ultrasonics needed.  This patent and the guy's simple testimony has me convinced that this thing is E-Z !!
I'm thinking Uncle Harry can easily make this in his back yard and run his furnace and truck with it and save (I'm hoping) 40% on his fuel price this winter..... with tiny bubbles!  :)
Peace on Earth.... Goodwill to men.... Big Oil kiss my ass. ;D

WOW goldenequity,

you are doing great work here ;D  Where is everyone ???... Are we not interested in saving up to 50% on heating this winter ???... or is everyone here living in the South.

Come on everyone!... at least let goldenequity know you are reading his post and find them informative.

As soon as I have some free time this is what I will be working on as you know it is not far fetched science. You know it's going to work.

Enough said!... lets get the ball rolling ;)

Luc

goldenequity

Exerpts from the above patent:

1. He was motivated by trying to save money  ;D

  • .......fluid emulsion is made up by the oil supplied and then shipped to the mine site. Since the fluids are typically 40% water almost half of the shipping costs are for shipping water.....Preparation of the emulsion at the mine site would avoid this.....individual emulsification equipment would be needed at each site. If a cheap, simple emulsification process were available the foregoing problems could be eliminated.

2.  Simple

  • ...... A simple inexpensive process for making very stable water-in-oil emulsion comprises metering the oil and water in the proper proportions through an open face centrifugal pump and then through a nozzle followed by repeated cycles through the pump then nozzles until the emulsion forms.  While the equipment involved is conventional off-the-shelf items it has not heretofore been used in such a combination.

3. Stable

  • .....In our invention we achieve emulsions with a particle size of less than one micron and emulsion stabilities as high as at least eight months.

4. Surfactant/Dispersant

  • .......A surface active agent is employed usually in the amount of 0.1-10%, usually 1-5%. The specific agent employed is not critical and those skilled in the art will recognize that there are literally hundreds of emulsifiers for oil-water emulsions.

5. Pump / Impeller / RPM

  • .......The pump employed is an open face centrifugal pump as other types of pumps, even the conventional type centrifugal (closed face), do not provide enough shear to achieve formation of stable, small particle size emulsions. In open face centrifugal pumps, also known as open impeller pumps, the impeller is, as the name implies, open on one side. The impeller is mounted with the open side next to a wear plate with a finite clearance of say 0.01-0.02 inch. Usually there is only about two vanes on the impeller.......The impeller should turn at a speed of at least 1000 RPM, preferably at least 2000 RPM, more preferably at least 3000 RPM.

6. Nozzle

  • .......The purpose of the nozzle is to provide additional shearing and reduce the time required to form the emulsion. This is done by restricting the flow in the discharge line from the pumps thus increasing the shearing rate in the pump as well. Preferably the restriction reduces the cross-sectional area of that discharge line by one-third, more preferably by one-half. The pressure drop across the nozzle should usually be at least 10 p.s.i., preferably at least 20 p.s.i. The nozzle can be quite sophisticated or can be merely a valve partially closed but is preferably the former in the interests of efficiency. Suitable nozzles are those conventionally used on fire hoses.

7.  Water Ratio / Water feed (Faster is better!  :) )

  • ......The relative proportions of the ingredients will normally be 20-60% water and 40-80% oil ......Preferably the amount of water is 35-50%.......In order to achieve the desired less than two micron particle size, preferably less than one, the water must be added to the oil fairly rapidly......The water should be added over a period of time which is not greater than three times the time it takes to pump the total water-oil volume through the pump.....Ideally the water is mixed in over one time.....two times is also suitable.

8. Recirculation, Dispersion & Stabilization

  • ......Once the oil and water are mixed they are circulated through the system again and again until the desired particle size is achieved and the viscosity levels out. After 5-10 repetitions the less than one-two microns will usually be reached but the viscosity (DISPERSION!) will usually not stabilize until 20-60 repetitions have taken place......The 1-2 micron size is important as it contributes greatly to emulsion stability. Our emulsions are stable for at least two months, i.e., there is no water separation on standing at 70? F for two months, preferably four months, more preferably eight months.

9. Temperature (might NOT be too important for diesel) but warm (indoors) is probably preferable.

  • .....the temperature should be 50?-140? F. Below 50? F is too cold to form an emulsion and above 140? F the emulsion exists partly as an oil-in-water emulsion.

:) :) :)