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Overunity Machines Forum



Rolling rotating magnet motor idea.

Started by Low-Q, August 26, 2008, 01:24:56 AM

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Cloxxki

I like this idea!
Obviously the rollers will need to be mechanically held in sync with the track. I simple axle and cog system will take care of this.
With the way the proposed system is to work, I think a relatively simple build to make for a good proof of concept. Some lego part and square magnets. The roller would need to be 100% the same circumference as the square ones.
Should the 1:1 displacement relationship not work, a larger roller could be used, "slipping" just ove rthe surface at adjusted gearing.
I bet that with maybe 8 square magnets placed on a radius, lack of equilibrium, or presence thereof, could already be found. I've seen good simulators though, likely less work for those proficient with them.

Low-Q

I had almost forgotten this thread...

Well the idea was to have a system that all the time forced the round A to rotate (torque) at any position in the halbach track. However, I did later discover that the round magnets are ofcourse forced in the oposite direction of what direction those are forced to roll - the torque. So the net force that is left in this system is pretty much zero. I miscalculated torque (Nm) and the actual force on the rollers surface - the radius of the rollers. So I scaled up the model in the simulation so the rollers was 1m in radius to easier see the counterforces versus torque, then the counterforce was equal to the torque of the rollers.

So, sorry guys. This will not work, and I figured out why.

Vidar

Cloxxki

Thanks for the honest update, many just stack their ideas up in the "inventions" cabinet.

Did you explore a roller that turned contrary to the traveled direction? Or rather, traveled contrary to the enduced spin. Gears would easily allow for this. One torque would need to exceed the other.

Low-Q

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 13, 2010, 08:42:55 AM
Thanks for the honest update, many just stack their ideas up in the "A" cabinet.

Did you explore a roller that turned contrary to the traveled direction? Or rather, traveled contrary to the enduced spin. Gears would easily allow for this. One torque would need to exceed the other.
The simulation said that the torque corresponds to the counterforced direction. Let say you have this round magnet in your hand, close to another magnetic pole. Turn it 90 degrees and you will feel that the round magnet is forced to turn back - torque. At the same time, this round magnet is also forced in a direction directly as a result of the 90 degree turned magnet. That particular direction is going the opposite way as the torque in the round magnet wants to go. So these forces cancel eachother out. It is not possible to get one of these forces stronger than the other, because they are acting within the same system where forces equals counterforces. Too bad, but true. I want to use some more energy in making my HHO generator now. That is at least not a physical "impossibility" that is OU, but still limitless of energy ;D

Vidar