Tri-force gates new design

[mpavenir]

Hi all,
Tested another tri-force design :



And there is the video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKCsKoLEf5A

(french to english translation in the video description)
I think this experiment clearly proves that such a design can be used to close the loop : the gates are far enough each other, so the neutral position is the same in every gates (no influence between them). If I think right, if the magnet can cross two gates, it could cross 100 or more, its speed increasing to a limit due to frictions. Moreover, there is absolutely no slowdown point after output and before input. But we lose this overunity effect on a circular design, unless the rotor is large enough to make the magnet to follow a quasi-linear path (in my opinion).

Here is another solution :

[Ergo]

Iv'e seen your video and there is no proof of any closed loop capability.
Any design based on balancing the magnetic forces will never work.
It will always find equilibrium.
If you somehow could find a configuration that barely self runs then it
will be so very weak that any load will stop it immediately.
Just like the Finsrud contraption. It is so extremely sensitive that any
outside influence, like vibration, breath or a sneeze will stop it.
And his device runs for two weeks at the most. So it ain't overunity.

[mpavenir]

thank you for watching my video
I would be really happy if I could build a device with 100.1 % efficiency, even if I can't extract energy. Because if you have 100.1 %, and you put together many devices like that, the global efficiency increases and the energy amount begins to be recoverable. (sorry for the bad english)
I do not agree with you : there is a clear proof of closed loop capability, since the moving magnet starts without any energy, just thanks to the n?1 gate's output repulsion. And as you can see : this output repulsion overcomes the n?2 gate's input repulsion. So with the same energy at the beginning (first gate output acceleration), I can make the magnet to roll on the distance I want, and there is no stopping at the end. I would like to do the same test with more gates (10 would be nice) but before I have to buy steel nuts.

[Omega_0]

Well, thats interesting because it is asymmetrical. (thats because you have rotated the triangles)
Anyway , you don't need a big circular track like the one in your drawing, you can use a rotor.

So, go ahead and close the loop. All the best.

[Ergo]

Because if you have 100.1 %, and you put together many devices like that,
the global efficiency increases and the energy amount begins to be recoverable.

That is wrong. A thousand devices capable of 100.1% each is still just 100.1%, nothing more.
If you can't load one single device then you can't load a thousand devices.
And there is a cost involved as well. If each 100.1% device cost $100 to build then a thousand
devices will cost $100000. This is a lot of money for something that can't deliver the juice.......

What you need to look for is a design that has great torque and a real output at resonable cost.
In the Tri-force gate almost all the pulling Flux is lost due to the great distance between magnets.