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Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.

Started by clone477, September 10, 2008, 10:23:07 PM

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thx1138

Quote from: jbignes5 on March 25, 2013, 12:11:36 PM

Time to check this out guys...


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,953-intensifying-transmitted-effects

Radiant energy is all around us. All we need is a way to find a signal that is stable and create a pll circuit to hold onto that signal then intensify that signal through the use of capacitors.

There is a lot of information in this patent and pay specific attention to capacitor and the special reference made by Mr. Tesla. Listen to the terms he uses, like weak signals and amplification or intensifying these signals to do work.
This is for a known transmission. The key to this patent is knowing the frequency of the transmission. Then this device can be used to and intensify it.
Dr. Moray said the energy he was intecepting, when connected to a headphone, sounded like waves in the ocean. I think that is a fairly literal description of radiant energy. See next post.

thx1138

Quote from: sparks on May 07, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
  Does Moray ever disclose the Universal frequency?   I sometimes wonder if there is some cosmic infrared background radiation.  Even a cosmic microwave background radiation.  By the length of the antennae Moray was using it could be in the microwave bands.  The atmosphere is transparent to a number of these freqs.  With the amount of man made microwave transmissions going on nowadays with a parmetric oscillator and frequency converter you could probably drive a car around on text messaging alone.  Moray refers to a frequency above light so maybe he tuned into some  gamma radiation.  Now your talking about an antennae/observer that is below the neuclear core diameter which would have to be redshifted all the way down to 60hertz.  Only crack at this would be some sort of crystal and agitating the crystal with a vibrational frequency that brings the neuclear cores close enough to observe the miniscule electric field polarization due to the gamma. hmmmmmmmm.
I don't think there is any "universal frequency" in radiant energy. My two years of studying only Dr. Tesla's writings on the subject leads me to believe that he is talking about high energy cosmic rays. There are several kinds - neutrinos, extreme energy cosmic rays, ultra high energy cosmic rays, and high energy cosmic rays. Neutrinos are not a consideration because they have a neutral, or nearly so, charge. These are subatomic charged particles (protons) that have traveled through interstellar space before reaching the earth. Scientists are still theorizing about their source but the most likely candicates are Gamm Ray Bursts, novae, super novae, and possibly the jets being ejected from black holes. Those are the processes that have the ability to accelerate particles to near light speed. The subatomic particles are traveling at near light speed so their energy is huge compared to their size. Dr. Tesla said the had enormous energy. He didn't add the "compared to their size" and that had me baffled for a while.

There are estimated to be 100 billion galaxies in the universe and an average of 100 billion stars in each galaxie so it's no wonder they are arriving at the earth from all directions at all times. But keep in mind that even at relativistic speeds we are talking enormous distances. So those that arrive from relatively far distances and those from relatively near distances but are arriving at the same time have no linkage. So I doubt that there is any basic frequency to them. We should not try to couple to any particular frequency but just accumulate as many impacts as possible. That's why Dr. Tesla said that the larger the elevated, insulated plate, the more power was attainable from them.

Very few, if any, of the primary ray particles reach the earth because they collide with the matter in the atmosphere, give up some of their energy to those collisions which creates other emissions, and continue on their way. I've seen estimates (and I can't remember where right now) that said they could penetrate 10's of meters of solid rock once they reach the surface.
So when we put an elevated, insulated plate up in the air and connect it to a ground conductor the ground conductor gives the plate a charge which attracts charges of the opposite polarity. When you think of the insulation, think of "dielectric insulation". The dielectric around the plate performs a number of functions. One is to align the polarities. That puts the opposite of the ground charge near the plate and the same as the ground charge on the outer surface of the dielectric which attracts charges of the opposite polarity which are those next to the plate. So the dielectric properties of the insulation used play a part in how well the system collects energy. We want as high a dielectric constant as we can get and at the same time as low a dissipation factor as possible. I'm using high density polystyrene (not the foam) at the moment. Another function it serves is to keep the charges collected in the conductors by shielding them from the atmosphere's opposite charges that would equalize with the charges collected. Everything has to be insulated, not just the elevated plate. All wires, connections, etc. must be insulated to keep what little charge that is collected inside the circuit. So the insulation has to be complete - insulate everything.

Going back to what Dr. Moray said about it sounding like waves in the ocean makes you realise that this is not DC electricity but it is surging back and forth between the ground and elevated, insulated plate. But it isn't AC electricity as we think of it as a sine wave signal. It's more like impulses as the particles strike the insulation and the plate. Never the less, it is there. Unfortunately it is very weak and since there is no regularity to the impulses there isn't really much we can do with resonance to enhance it.

What we can do is accumulate it in a condenser and at a regular period partially discharge the condenser through a quenched spark gap and with resonance and constructive intererence slowly build up useable power. The trick here is not to deplete the condenser much faster than it is charged. That rate of charge will depend on the size of the elevated, insulated plate. That also controls how fast we can use the power from the system because it determines how fast the condenser charges.

I'm working on it but slowly. I'm getting some energy but not much because I have a small test setup and my elevation above sea level is low. That is a major factor in the amount of power than can be drawn - the higher the elevation of the ground above sea level, the thinner the atmosphere and the less energy the charged particles have given up before they reach the elevated, insulated plate. The closer to sea level, the less energy is available.

Of course the fact that they are mostly dispersed by the atmosphere is a good thing. Otherwise the earth would be a cinder and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Tito L. Oracion

This method is the real solution to free energy crisis but the magic is still missing. :-\


They really can't give it.  :(

forest

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2013, 05:30:14 AM
This method is the real solution to free energy crisis but the magic is still missing. :-\


They really can't give it.  :(

The only way to use it is by small quantities spread uniformly around the world. Quite contrary to current bussiness model, ok ? You should know it better Tito,right ?  ::) Press too much and the governor (he he what a coincidence) will kill you .... Didn't you read Mythology ? [

thx1138

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on May 09, 2013, 05:30:14 AM
This method is the real solution to free energy crisis but the magic is still missing. :-\


They really can't give it.  :(
Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no magic involved. Everything necessary to understand and implement it is right there in Dr. Tesla's patents, lectures, and interviews. It does, however, take some work to dig it out and connect the dots. It is also very easy to confuse his different systems as parts of the same system which they are not. The collection of radiant energy and the wireless transmission of energy are two different things. The former collects and converts radiant energy into electricity. The latter transmits electricity, no matter what the source of the electricity is, without wires.