The Road to Perpetual Motion

[bluesgtr44]

What does a roll of toilet paper and the Star Ship Enterprise have in common?


They both can hang around "Uranus" picking up "Clingons"......

[TinselKoala]

BEP wrote:
"That theory is called 'gravitation'. Does anyone here know the difference between gravitation and acceleration?"

There is no difference between gravitation and acceleration. Gravity IS acceleration, nothing more, nothing less.

You prove this to yourself every day by vector mathematics.  You ride in or on vehicles that accelerate and decelerate on various vectors different from the local gravitational acceleration vector. Yet the accelerations from the vehicle and the acceleration from gravity combine together perfectly, according to the rules of vector calculus, with nothing left over or unaccounted for.
This could not happen if the "fields and forces" involved were of different natures.

The problem isn't what the acceleration due to gravity is, but rather, where it comes from. In the case of gravity, the acceleration comes from the curvature of space itself, and this curvature is apparently caused by the presence of mass, in some way that is yet imperfectly understood.

[BEP]

There is no difference between gravitation and acceleration. Gravity IS acceleration, nothing more, nothing less.

@TinselKoala

Exactly 

At least I agree - for the moment. When I understand 'from where' and 'to where' and 'why' then my ideas of gravitation should be complete. The one thing I separate on is my concept of gravitation is it is an effect not an affect.

Another very wordy subject I'll avoid right now.

[pequaide]

Kator01, Hans, others; I don’t know if you have seen the Laithwaite experiment fig. 7 in the threads, but it seems to back up the cylinder and spheres experiment. Any support and clues help.

See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/ then go to files, then to pictures titled 9-27-08 Laithwaite’s figure 7.

3 photographs of Laithwaite’s Figure 7
From position one (photograph one) a small double lever is used to accelerate the pucks on the end of the string; one is accelerated north and one south (relative directions). The center puck is initially at rest and has a mass of 76g; the end pucks have a mass of about 32 grams each. That means the center of mass is closer to the center puck than to the end pucks.

As soon as the end pucks begin moving north and south the center puck begins moving right. When the center puck reaches the center of mass (which is about the center of the table) the end pucks are in the positions of photograph two, directly above and below the center puck. If the center of mass is to remain in position as Laithwaite stated then the velocity of the end pucks will be moving with half their original velocity, and the center puck will be moving with 64/76 *1/2 the original velocity of the end pucks. These velocities conserve linear Newtonian momentum, and the velocities also conserve the position of the center of mass. This is what the experimenter will observe upon doing the experiment.

All this motion is then returned to the end pucks upon moving from photograph 2 to photograph 3. In photograph three the center puck (now on the right side) is again at rest. The energy change from photograph 2 to photograph 3 is 217%. Start the motion in the center (photograph 2) and you can make energy.   

[WilbyInebriated]

hans and a scale model of his pissmobile