The Road to Perpetual Motion

[hansvonlieven]

G'day ChileanOne,

I'll see if I can get an AVI version together

Greetings

Hans

[Marctwo]

No-one knows where it comes from, the fact is it is there and it is additional energy that can be used. That is enough...
...Besides, if it comes purely from momentum why does it go up by the square of velocity?

The way you work with CF on paper depends on which way you wish to interpret it but there's no net gain in diverting an objects inertial path.  There's a world of difference between physics and the physical world.

As to the circular track, this could easily be achieved if the velocity is high enough, I doubt though it could be done using gravity as energy input.

Yes, that's the point Hans.  If you were gaining energy from this, you could project the ball higher than it's starting point.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

Thanks for thinking of it Chilean1. It's done.

The AVI versions of experiment 1 and 2 are here:

http://keelytech.com/bessler/pop/experiment1.avi

http://keelytech.com/bessler/pop/experiment2.avi

Have fun

Hans von Lieven

[ChileanOne]

Hans! Fortunately your descriptions of the virtual experiments are rich enough to have a good level of understanding even without running the simulations (which, anyway, will surely help ).

Now I see that the magnetic equivalent is indeed more complex to explain, but I think you are providing a wonderfull starting point for developping the same concept.

I have to tell you, this has got to be history in the making.

[hansvonlieven]

The way you work with CF on paper depends on which way you wish to interpret it but there's no net gain in diverting an objects inertial path.  There's a world of difference between physics and the physical world.
Yes, that's the point Hans.  If you were gaining energy from this, you could project the ball higher than it's starting point.

You keep forgetting that the wheel is still spinning with the potential energy we started off with. That energy is still available to the system.

Hans von Lieven