Stanley Meyer and The Water Car Hoax

[sparks]

@Farlander


      I am doing alot of research into collection of infrared emwaves.  A company is developing infrared antennae mats with micro antennaes to resonate with the waves directly.  The collection is at 80% efficiency but I believe that the technology is geared towards near infrared wavelengths found in industrial processes with high heat losses.  My idea is to store the waveenergy in formation of a magnetically manipulated low temperature plazma.  This plazma can then be transported and disintegrated at point of use.
Or beamed over as needed.  Something like canning radio waves. 

   As to the electolysis of water.  Tesla developed a capacitor that is a coil of wire with specific geometric design.  I believe it is the most efficient use of the input energy in that it's capacitance is a byproduct of current going elsewhere to do other work.  I am not familar enough with Myers work but would imagine that activating the entire coil geometry into capacitive coupling with the water molecules can't hurt. .  Another thing about water is it's ionization constant.  It is falling apart on it's own already.  Pinning down the naturally occuring ions and driving off the oh-rads allows for hydrogen to hydrogen co-valent bonds to occur.  Now the oh- is an agent to destabilize the water molecule.  Something like an avalanche effect.  Don't take this all to heart there are many that have devoted their lives to the study of water.  I was involved with electrocoagulation of suspended solids using aluminum ion generation to destabilize van der wall charges of particles demonstrating brownian motion.  Basically a water dust filter.  Machine worked but the cost of electricity to operate and degas the fluid was more than the cost of aluminum sulphate presently employed by wastewater folks.  It produced a little bit of hydrogen that you could pop once in a while.  Maybe I should go back and use pulse energy!

[professor]

You don,t offer a man 1 Million or 1 Billion  Dollars if he is a fake.
You don,t send out Government Agents to intimidate someone that can't be taken serious!
I suppose he fooled all of the other independent Scientific Institutions as well ?. 
Do you think Mayers would have spent all of his Money and Efforts, just so we can argue about it ?
I suppose he was not killed  by poison?
Did he fool the Newsmedia as well ?.
I seem to remember that he had foreign Car Manufacturers looking and confirming his Technology.

Do I believe in the Iraq War ,  9/11  or the Haarp ?
According to some of you I should not, because I was not there, I  only saw and heard what the News Media presented us.
As far as Jason is concerned ,sometimes one has to use extraordinary measures to get a Point across.
I hold  no Grudge against Jason I do not know him. He stirred up a lot of controversy amongst  and between other Members
I wished this had never happened. I came here to learn and contribute but when attacked by Name calling I will respond .
My argument and my thoughts where between Jason and myself , not agreeing with what I said to Jason is one thing but to attack me for what I believe in makes you no better than me. The only difference is,that we are supposed to believe in the technology call it Meyers or Dingle or at least I hope so.   
A scenario  like this leads only to a bitterness and results in a  long lasting resentment that leaves me with the thought do I really want to share any more?
professor

Ok..  The problem here is "Faith" in a technology ..   This is exactly what you have (like it or not)  if you've never seen a (new and amazing, revolutionary) technology such as Stan Meyer's 1700 percent efficiency water splitter, or his water cracking spark plugs work for yourself, and you believe in it.   Faith in a technology (theory) and the proof of a technology are two different things.

I'm not trying to debunk Stan Meyer...   I never saw his demo units working in person, with measurements taken.  I don't know if it worked or not....


But, IMO, we have way too may people talking about Stan Meyer like he's their cousin, and claim to know the technology inside and out, swear it works..   Giving us amazing and speculative theories ...   But provide no evidence..  just useless ramblings....    And chances are  they've never seen a working replication in their life.  C'mon now guys.  Am I the only one tired of this crap?

[Farlander]

@Jason
Don't forget, there's not much to gain from starting a conspiracy about a water car.  There is a lot to gain however from making people think it's not possible.

@Sparks
The Hydrostar water fuel cell has a donut coil sitting inside the top of it.  The flux field of the coil may align the h2o molecule to facilitate dissociation.  I presume that a coil with proper shape and proximity to the cell could induce an effect, but I don't understand it nor have I tested this.

[allcanadian]

@All
You know it's funny hearing from people like jason85, as an engineer of 20+ years I remember being young and cocky, I was also dumb as a post LOL. My 5 years of education in engineering was not even a warm up for the amount of knowledge I gained from the people in this forum and the documentation researched in the FE forums. I just talked to a person in a forum who believed that it was impossible to power a load with one wire, which I have been doing for a few years now.LOL It is like T.H.Moray once said---"you cannot prove anything to anyone who cannot prove the matter for themselves"
jason85 will believe what he believes and there is no amount of proof you can offer him," what is the truth when the truth is unacceptable"--T.H.Moray ----again Damn he was one smart man!

[valveman]

Frankly all this stuff about poisoning, being offered millions or even billions and threatened by MIB is just hearsay.  No proof of this.  If indeed it happened, that would be tragic.  I deal in absolutes "proof" not conjecture.  To believe something without proof is called faith in religion and conspirasy theorism.  You are welcome not to agree.

Bring on the flames, I have my flame suit on,