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Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)

Started by sirmikey1, October 07, 2008, 10:32:59 PM

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sparks

  The problem with power factor is that the watt meters dont catch the reactive power circulated.  Because the wattmeter is designed to monitor voltage and current in phase and report this as wattage they miss the reactive power flow they have to circulate un monitored.  They dont bother with small end users but if you have a welding operation or anything else where the outofphase energy to the plant is appreciable they have a special meter for you. 

@Jadaro

     What the hell is the difference between beta and accelerated electrons anyway?  Wave particle duality stuff.  Oh ya I forgot the neutrino bullshit. These mysterious little things are everywhere react with nothing weigh nothing but they exist because they make the math come out right so we dont have to deal with infinite values.  OK as long as it makes you happy.
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jadaro2600

Quote from: sparks on December 24, 2009, 11:03:59 AM
@Jadaro

     What the hell is the difference between beta and accelerated electrons anyway?  Wave particle duality stuff.  Oh ya I forgot the neutrino bullshit. These mysterious little things are everywhere react with nothing weigh nothing but they exist because they make the math come out right so we dont have to deal with infinite values.  OK as long as it makes you happy.

Lets see:  Beta radiation is an electron, alpha is a helium nucleus ..all are named because they are atomic pieces moving at high speed.  the named radiation DOES react with the environment..

Let's say we have a dieing atom, and it beta decays, it send an electron somewhere, and lets say that it impacts a conductor - a charge difference is created between the two which can be used to power something is the number of beta emissions is excessive enough to be noticeable ( a large amount of radioactive material ).

Well, the same stuff may also undergo alpha decay, and do the dame thing.  The combined effects make thermonuclear betavoltaics possible.

Just as well, with regard to the Tesla spark gap - ..  The transmitter is sending pulses, the receiver is getting them ( apparently because of the likeness of the device.

Well, ultimately, the atomic particles are all the same, they just exist in different proportions to form the elements.  The case is, if I have two like atoms, and one beta decays before another, and the beta particle strikes the as-yet-decayed atom, then a voltage difference will exist between them ..and if I were stupid enough to try to make a circuit that small, it would generate electricity for me ( for that fraction of a second ).

This pulse is similar to tesla's spark gap device.  His observations on the effects can be paralleled to how we perceive radiation ( from sound waves all the way up to...infinity ( as you are so annoyed by ) ...   and as he notes, there is a comfortable realm in which the emissions of his device operates, just as there is a comfortable realm in which we exist.

.. a neutrino is just an exotic quazi-particle.  And has nothing to do with what I was talking about, and I'm not sure why you ranted on about it..

jadaro2600

Quote from: angryScientist on December 24, 2009, 04:06:28 AM
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Ac losses due to selfinduction on transmission lines pisses off the power companies.  Maybe they should add some capacitors down at the end to exploit resonance instead of pushing voltages against resistance.  Then hook the transmission lines to transformers once the nodes and antinodes are estabished on the wire. That was Teslas idea.  They didnt buy it and so now they rectify the ac coming out of the plants and send it out as hv dc.  The heating losses of the semiconductors barely out weighs the the impedance losses of the transmission lines.  They got nothing better to do than waste money so what the hell.] Ac losses due to selfinduction on transmission lines pisses off the power companies.  Maybe they should add some capacitors down at the end to exploit resonance instead of pushing voltages against resistance.  Then hook the transmission lines to transformers once the nodes and antinodes are estabished on the wire. That was Teslas idea.
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Any unused offshoot of an AC line will be capacitive if it's length is greater than or equal to the length of the AC wave.  I think these are called gimmicks.  On top of that, AC lines have capacitance between them.. this is often the case with tower-based transmission lines 100kv or higher are often done in pairs of close wires.  This is supposed to help overcome the issues you mention here.

edit, after re-reading your post ... i'm not sure what country you're living in, but having DC associated with transmission lines is bad, .. Edison was the one with the DC supply, and it cause so many fires ...

Well, Tesla came along with AC and the rest is history.

Who's transmissions lines carry HV DC?  ...

Every once in a while, if you're traveling down a country road with the usual AC poles off in the right-of-way ..you may notice something that looks like a set of transformers ( but strangely enough, there are no houses or lead-offs.  Theses are the capacitors you are talking about.

Otherwise, a transformer itself has a capacitance, and these things aren't needed all over the place.  The tranformer IS the capacitor at the end of the run.

Just as tesla's receiver is; between the transmitter and receiver, there is capacitance, inductance, etc.  It would be hard to ignore these things and still get away with the transmission of electricity.

sparks

   Due to self inductive losses the power companies rectify the ac filter it and send it on down transmission lines between generating plants and distant end users.  The impedance of the wire is lets say greatly reduced.  AC distribution was implemented due to the ease of construction of the ac transformer to supply safer operating voltages to be distributed to the end users.  The transformers you see are boost transformers to overcome the resistive portion of the impedance presented by the transmission lines.  The orginal dc distribution circuits generated low voltage dc at levels determined safe enough to enter households.  This necessitated that each consumer be supplied with it's own run and the size of the copper conductor increasingly large determined by how far away the consumer was from the generating plant or motor generator substations.  Tesla moved on from his early work with ac currents of high voltage and wanted to drive his transmission system using emwave energy instead of just charge pressure.  The line no longer has any resistance to the wave energy but becomes the media through which the wave energy is conveyed.  By transmitting harmonic frequencies of the transmission lines natural resonant frequency his nodes and antinodes could arise on the wire at any interval needed to be conviently connected to what he called translatory devices to do some work for us.  It doesnt matter if the wire is a loop or whatever it was never intended to create a complete circuit as we now find ourselves dealing with.  Westinghouse was as bad for Tesla as Edison ever thought of being.  He was on Tesla's payroll and the guy is inventing stuff that obsoletes the transformers his company is making a fortune off of and still do replacing aged transformers and extending the "Devils Grid" into developing nations.
   
mod

   I wasn't ranting at Jadareo but particle physics is running out of shit to come up with to explain it's failures at a grandunification theory.  Enough is enough.  Do we need to spend billions on Cern to proove some theoretical mathmaticians computer generated bullshit.  The whole quantom physics realm of science is based on mathmatical probablities.  You cant get to the essence of an event by looking at it's effects.  The best gamblers I know try.  They lose even when the odds are in their favor.  There is the chaos element in any situation.  I love it.  Makes life exciting.
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Magluvin

I agree with Jadaro. Only AC here in the US powerlines. Edison fought for DC but Tesla prevailed with AC working with Westinghouse.
Mags