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Overunity Machines Forum



HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.

Started by peterpierre, October 11, 2008, 05:01:21 PM

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What do you think about my current findings in regards to my interpretation of Stanley Meyers System?

I think you're right on track.
Should work but I have reservations. (please post explanation)
I think you're way off. (please post explanation)

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: peterpierre on October 11, 2008, 05:01:21 PM
Built in Germany - operational going into ultra sonic trials next week. My name is Pete and yes - I am the guy in the pic :) Cell tested without electronics - in less than one hour pressure of 2.5 BAR (almost 36 PSI achieved and it holds it as well - over pressure protection valve operates as anticipated) :)
I've downloaded the first posted schematic from this thread and when I saw the transformer, it reminded me of certain patent drawings I've seen in the past.   That's my concern: Patent components, as such, will not have been designed to split water into HHO deliberately.   They have unusual core coil winding patterns, but not to specifically make HHO.

Time's about up on this computer.   I'll be back later to explain try and what I mean further.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on November 10, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
Time's about up on this computer.   I'll be back later to explain try and what I mean further.
Okay, so I'm back to try and describe what I mean by 'patents':
For those I've seen, by Meyers and others, the amount of energy to overcome H2-O2 bonds in water molecules is too high to be cost effective.  If sound is used as a means to affect the process, would that, in effect, amount to cold fusion while using and given frequency to split water into H2 and O2.
Microwaves can also be used to excite H2 molecules to ionize them and therefore split water into component gases.   It does take a resonant frequency, as I understand it, which is why an experimental VASMIR engine should work.

I said I had a reservation in the HHO design of Meyer, and that was it.  Just my 2 cents.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

peterpierre

Duly noted :) Sorry I have been gone for so long but I was really really busy poking around. So my journey took me all the way back to the late 1800's and a guy named Nikola Tesla and I started seeing co-relations not only to Stanley Meyer but also to Edwin Gray's work ... made me wonder - so many similarities in those three peoples work, looks like Gray and Meyer made use of what Tesla was working on after he stopped working with alternating current. I also realized which parts meyer left out from his drawings:


1) There is no pulse generator in front of the primary coil (if there is it is merely to convert DC to pulsed DC in order to power the primary side) ...


2) behind the secondary coil should be a rectifier in order to turn the stepped up AC to DC again


3) behind the rectifier should be one or two or more large capacitors which are to be filled up by the stepped up DC


4) behind the capacitors (but before the blocking diode - positive side) should be a mechanical switch + properly spaced spark gap which repeatedly discharges the capacitor(s) accumulated high voltage through the blocking diode into the cell.


5) the blocking diode's sole purpose is to ensure that the pulse discharges are unidirectional - the interesting part that happens (the mystery) is in the spark gap / closure of the discharge switch, I can't quite put my finger on it to define what exactly happens but it happens anyways - maybe someone smarter than me can find a definition / explanation.


6) My findings: The circuit is plausible and not a myth at all. There is no violation of the law of thermodynamics because it is not a perpetual motion machine, you need water in order to run the device. Indeed I built a circuit which allows me to charge two 30uF caps in parallel (total 60 uF) up to 680 Volt DC with barely consuming 1.6 Watt during the short charge cycle, however the energy released upon sudden discharge can do a whole lot more than one would attribute to 1.6 Watts.


I will try to overcome my fear of great bodily harm and do a single test discharge into the cell, I hope the resulting pressure won't throw some steel pipes my way else it might turn out to be a quite painful experience. Anyone else wanna try this and have a similar setup / the means, go ahead - I take no responsibility for what may happen. ... god I hate hospitals ....

ronvbnt


I just uploaded first ever videos showing a working spiral spool spinner in operation.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805268116/spool-spinner-makes-axially-spiraled-wire-twisted-0


Unless you found a way to twist thousands of feet of wire then none of you have followed Stans VIC instructions.


I describe why I think it will work in the link above.


Ron

ronvbnt

I just uploaded first ever videos showing a working spiral spool spinner making twisted bifilar wire.  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805268116/spool-spinner-makes-axially-spiraled-wire-twisted-0


Unless you found a way to twist thousands of feet of wire then none of you have followed Stans VIC guide.


I describe why I think it will work in the link above. Ron