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My first WFC/VIC

Started by fritz, October 26, 2008, 08:18:00 PM

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Farlander

Oh and the rule of 9's, you only have to have a frequency generator capable of 1/9th, 1/18th, 1/27th etc. of the natural resonating frequency of the water molecules for this to work.  It's like how an ICE only fire the cylinder every 4th stroke -- the wave may osciilate 3 or 4 times (octaves) before it is hit again, but you still get resonance

fritz

Ups, missed out some notifications,
was busy and thought thread is dead....

Ok, had my nice 50kV setup with the ignition coil.
Why it doesn´t work:

I operated the coil with up to 40V on primary - but
the inductivity of the coil is too high to get energy in at
reasonable frequencies...

Additional - the "AC" output impedance of the secondary is too
high - NOTHING happens. (but get 5cm sparks if open loop)

What you need is a low impedance - high voltage pulse - and a
high impedance space between the pulses.

If you want to step charge the wfc - the energy which is transfered
during the pulse must be higher - than the discharge in the space
between the pulses.

If you assume that the meyer vic choke consisted of 2 x 10kOhm windings -
this would mean that you have a constant DC discharge of for example
1000V/20kOhm = 50mA. That would  mean with 50% duty cycle that you
have 25 Watts RMS discharge -> means you need more energy in.

What is the reported operating step chargin voltage ? some hundred volts ?

At first site its way easier to generate such pulse trains with mechanical
commutator from low impedance high voltage source - or HV mosfet switcher.

With "myfirstvic" I got step charge up to 60V with tap water - and 150V with
distilled water - at certain frequencies.

Because of the restrictions with the vic - I will go on with mechanical commutator
and hv switching without VIC.

rgds.




guruji

Hi Guys anyone tried that circuit that alan posted?
I was going to try that.
I saw it too on youtube.
Thanks

Farlander

Great post.  I say again, you need the diode in series with the secondary of the transformer to prevent reverse leakage, or, a low resistance circuit during on time, and a high impedance during off time.  A zener diode for example.  High speed switching

I would also recommend a driver for your fet, if you are using one.  The driver is more like a buffer, it cleans up the incoming wave so you get nice clean pulses, perfectly clipped.  This helps the coil discharge and produce HV.

I have also heard this but am not quite sure I remember it well:
That you should have a capacitor in series with the ground and mosfet so that primary discharges faster.. I assume this could be true if the capacitor attempts to "reabsorb" any current that was used during the "on" cycle. 

YEA

lefferdink

"HeairBear"  I have read all of this topic, "My first WFC/VIC),
You have done a lot of work as I see.
What kind of results have you achieved on the Stanley Meyers replication?