Where does the universe get energy from?

[mscoffman]

Come'on folks;

Matter and energy are interchangable according to E=MC^2. That is for dynamic energy.
Potetential energy is somewhat more complicated based in the configuration of matter
that was aquired in the big-bang or whatever you want to call it at the beginning of the
universe.

So you can (a) absorb some energy that is already there, if your patient. Or (b) know
database-wise were there is a store of potential energy just sitting or lying around
(with a fence around it, no doubt.). Or (c) you can use some procedures on the right
stuff to convert some energy from matter. Various independent dimensions act as an
accounting system for the common components of both matter and energy.

Us in free energy are looking for the universe's accounting system to be systematically
making mistakes in certain situations - after all the universe is a complex place. 

:S:MarkSCoffman

[christo4_99]

movement=energy...therefore if you account for inertia and loss of momentum the universe was moving faster than it is now...logically anyway...but since there is evidence that the universe is expanding(speeding up) it would imply that either the subjective state of all matter is movement (energy) or gravity (the counteractive force which impacts all mass to some extent) will in fact return as the dominant strong force...in such a way you can think of all the other forces as borrowing energy from mass...in other words the total energy of the universe has to be accounted for either in mass(stillness) or energy(movement)...which also means that the more motion there is in the universe as a whole the less matter there is...the more stillness the more matter...this also implies that if the universe is gaining energy then it is losing mass...

[christo4_99]

another idea is that gravity can compress matter beyond it's capacity to fit in the alloted space defined for it...gravity insures that things can never become too massive without again being "spit out" of the area it exists within...it is my opinion that the big bang did not have to happen on such a large scale from one point but that given time to accumulate mass a big bang can happen above a given threshold without the total mass and gravity of all matter...so,gravity=an exponential compression of mass that has a definate threshold...beyond that threshold that compression causes movement(which is probably limited in speed C2)repeled from a given center...

[christo4_99]

i did some more thinking on this:science has concluded that opposites attract but since gravity is indiscriminate of any kind of polarity this implies that it may very well be the negative content (decompressed space or deficit space) within matter that attracts the positive(compressed space or surplus space) outside of matter.two different densities of space which are separated from each other.

[c-cat]

christo, i agree with your thoughts, although molecular movement or atomic, on that scale anyways, still creates energy and carires the potential of. The coalition of atoms ,or better said, attraction, is in itself energy. I tend to think of the universe as a drop of water still in motion as it falls into a puddle. Being absorbed but still it's own entity.