Lynnferd Grant HHO Breakthrough

[sucahyo]

Just watching the microwave video, look very very dangerous, one small wrong movement can cause death.....

As for bubble created, if the input voltage is AC I think it would be very interesting that ultrasonic can make it do electrolysis. It would be more interesting to see how high voltage DC input do.

Even if it is DC, electrolysis efficiency seems boosted with ultrasonic.

[goldenequity]

I would agree with Luc and those curious enough to further this.
Perhaps a diamond in the rough is the appropriate way to look at
this..... not focusing on "them" the 2 guys.....but "it".
What can be done with "it"?
Please report ALL variations & attempts to this thread... good or bad... 
It's amazing how one person's experience can birth dozens of alternate
concepts then we watch it develop and be tweaked by more and more refinements..
just like the plasma spark thread..... its come a LONG way since Luc's first
post.......its how open sourcing is supposed to work.
Cheers 2 all 

[Kator01]

Hi all,

now I feel obliged to point out that the power of a standart-jewlery-cleaner might not be sufficient to start the electrolysis-process.

If - provided that this video is not a fake - you look closley near the last quarter of this video you will notice that they had to turn on power-stage 2 of the cleaner for the bubbles to appear.

From my experience with many cleaners which I was repairing, the power-rate written on the tag applies to the electric power-consumption ( not sonic-power created)  and is mostly way below the specification. Most cleaner have a 50 Watt spec but when I tested them with my powermeter there was not one device with 30 Watt. Most of them ended at 27 Watt. So you have to look at a device with at least real 50 watt-power-consumption - otherwise you spend money on a useless device. No one of us really knows the threshold beyond of which the process will start.

Regards

Kator

[sucahyo]

Anyone ever see ironhead ultrasonic video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxtNsIUIOS0

The larger bubble when ultrasonic device turned on I think is the sign or more efficient electrolysis. Higher current density will increase bubble size on plate configuration isn't it?

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I have an update. At this time I am away from home, Ottawa, Canada. I've been in Florida for 2 weeks and today I took a 3 hour drive to visit Mike, user name: jstadwater  and his boss at their Custom Auto Shop.

Mike is a very active tester and developer of the Water Spark circuit topic and this was a great occasion to meet him. Once there I found out that he has been following this topic and had the necessary supplies ready for testing.

We used a microwave oven transformer, capacitor and diode but did not have it connected to the magnetron tube. His Ultrasonic cleaner was a stainless tank model with a frequency of 42,000 Hz. It had water in it and a plastic cup filled with water with 2 stainless steel 1/2" wide x 4" long electrodes on each side about 3" apart. We powered the transformer assembly and noticed immediate gas production without the ultrasonic cleaner on and when we turned it on all the fine bubbles (cloud) disappear.

This effect can be seen on Youtube if you search for "ultrasonic HHO" you will find some video's

We were not capable of replicating the effect since we had gas production from the start and the setup was not identical. I am also wondering if someone can do the research on the Ultrasonic cleaner model used in the original test to find what frequency it is as I found some cheaper models used a lower frequency.

I'm sure Mike will test it with a paper clip and spoon as electrodes to see if it makes a difference . Please also note the ultrasonic cleaner had no power adjustment.

That's it for now!

Luc