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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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innovation_station

@ 99 indeed  ;D

they all must be seprate ....  lol   thus the returning kick from each adds up to output  :o  or the  bigger diffrance in the cap  ;)  how ever if the coils were transformers this does not hold true ...  you could connect all primaries as captian peacn has done with his coils ...  but....

the secondaries add up  ;)....   as you pass engery throught the primary ..  upon colapse the secondaries fill the cap.... ;)


ist :P

NOW BUILD MY TRANNY......   6 OF EM  ;)   WRAP IN A RING    DUH......   THEN ADD MY NEO TECK TO INCREASE AMPARGE...

i aint telling you the rest ....   seen the movie IRONMAN??   
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Grumpy

CaptainPecan,

Aren't you pulsing this cap motor cap combination?

I ask because, impulses do not adhere to all the conventional BS about being conservative.  Gobaga posted something on this but later removed it.  I have it saved somewhere.  Anyone thinking otherwise should be ignored as they are probably trolls or just ignorant of details in electrodynamics in the last 50 years.

I think you should find a way to charge the cap in excess of conventional means of charging it, then use this to drive the motor.

It is my understanding that conventional EM motors are very inefficient when operated like this, but I have heard that rotoverters run quite well this way - I'll ask my brother about that as he has experience in this field.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

wattsup

Yes it is pulsing in the motor due to the commutator/brush contact is changing to a new coil each few degrees in time. If you took a simply iron core coil and pulsed it, it will do the same thing as running your dc motor steady.

innovation_station

i just had a back feed melt down lol

with 1 freq .... 8)   my wires started smokeing ..... :o  guess there is some power there  ::)

ist

the back feed and meltdown is because i never took the power off 8)

and it is flying back to source as we all are  ;D
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

captainpecan

@spinner

This is not a smart ass remark, please don't view it as such.  Since electrical energy always follows the path of least resistance, it appears that what you are telling me, is that when an electron enters one side of the motor, somehow the actual properties of the coil much change to provide a path of less resistance being to leave the coil, rather than flow through it.  As it leaves the coil, it chooses to transform itself into a rotational movement and without that transformation, no movement would occur.  Therefore, if I had a perfectly efficient motor, no electrons would ever leave the second terminal of the motor, as they all would be forced out of the circuit, in forms of kinetic, heat, or whatever other energies are involved.

Or, could it be that the electrons are going to keep running right on through that coil, only transforming into heat due to resistance.  Isn't it possible the rotation is not really a transformation of the electron, and merely an effect of it passing by?  Similar to standing next to the road, and a car fly's by at 300 miles an hour.  Now the car did not see any noticeable difference in it's velocity when it passed by me, but a force would be exerted against you, blowing you away from the car.  In that scenario, the car did not mysteriously disappear as it transformed into a gust of air blowing you onto your butt on the side of the road.  The car kept going, like it never even knew you existed. The air surrounding the car changed, not the car itself. It was the air that pushed you away from the car.  Comparing to the motor scenario, isn't it possible that the magnets themselves got pushed out of the way by the "air".. (pun intended) and not the electron jumping out of the circuit and give it a kick to move it?  If this is true, then like the example I gave, that car would keep moving right on down the road no matter how many people stood on the side of the road, blowing all of them on their butts. Sure, a small force would be exerted against the car, but very small change in it's velocity would occur.  This would then explain why when I hooked more then one motor in the circuit, there was no noticeable difference in ending energy, but there was definitely a noticeable difference of work obtained.

Just my take on it.  I'm not sure why all the regular laws of nature go out the window when you deal with electricity. I'm thinking everyone is complicating it to much, and things are not all that different.  To be honest, I dont want to convert that electron into the light and heat that powers my house light bulbs...  I want to borrow some of that kinetic energy when that electron whizzes by, and use it to force more electrons into the mix.. (magnet moving over a coil).  If I don't convert the electron, I can keep borrowing it's kinetic energy, and use it to help direct some of it's "friends" into our circuit to play!!!

Hey, all I'm saying is that our physics books say what we are searching for is impossible.  As long as we view the world in the same way the physics books say we have to...  Then the physics books are correct.  Start viewing the world the way nature teaches us through experience, and maybe we can see what the physics books aren't able to anymore.