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Canceling Lenz's Law - Methods

Started by supermuble, November 19, 2008, 03:48:27 PM

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sparks

   If the lines of force from a pm are bent away into a magnetic shielding material like zinc or lead or the special stuff on the back of speakers and there is a slot in this material that forms a rotor what happens now.  The stator laminations have to be such that the steel transmits the magnetic energy and after that returns to magnetic polarization depending on the Earth's magnetic field.  This would entail attention to the retaintence of the core.   This overunity effect has already been done many times with a flyback transformer.  300volts in ballasted 30kv out.  The free energy is in the draw from the magnetic energy of the Earth or whatever demagnitises the core of the flyback.  Just a matter of what you do with that 30kv potential you get in reactive energy that does not come at the expense of the input pulses. 
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Quote from: supermuble on November 27, 2008, 02:45:34 PM

1. Moving magnetic fields create electrical current....
Many believe that there is no real distinction between a current and a
magnetic field. They are like opposite sides of the same coin. If you
have one, there will be the other lurking about somewhere.
Paul.

Kator01

Hi Supermuble,

yes correct. This is Steve Gillis and you are right, this is where I read his statement that he believes a certain type of magneto-design used in Ford T - Model ( 1930 I guess ) has a good chance to OU-Output. In this german Journal
there was some statement from Ford-Management that he mentioned - at the verge of the struggle for power by the bankers ( Gas versus electricity- Tesla ) that Ford would be able to run the car on electricity alone ( of this magneto delivering up to 40 Horespowers ) and leave the Gas-Bankers alone. You have to know that this magneto had a double-function : it worked as an alternator and an ignition-system.

But please again, look at power-output of the magneto versus a standard-ignition-system. This tells the story.
Why I was posting this : It is directly linked to Thanes development and to this topic here

@BEP : If you talk about phase-shift here we have to destingiuish between primary and secondary coil. If you use a saw-tooth signal as driver-signal on  primary of a flyback - as I said - the slow ascending slope will give time enough for the current to rise. I have tested this. If you switch on a  primary with a rectangular wave you will observe a 45 Degree falling-slope of the voltage at the primary. This means - no current-full voltage at start. If the end  of ths triagle is reached - current is at the maximum. This maximum can be controled by the time the sawtooth is switched on and the voltage-level of the sypply and the saturation-level of the core. Now you counteract this behaviour of a rectangular waveform with a sawtooth. You do not switch voltage instantly to full level but slowly in a 45 degree slope to give the current time to reach its maximum.After the sawtooth has suddenly switched off the magnetic orientation of the ferrite-elements return back - as sparks said it already - and you have a very high Voltage at the secondary which - when under load - can not communicate its kickback-force to the sender ( controller ) at the primary - as it is switched off.
Now I hope you get the point : You can control this by the on-off-ratio and the puls-width of the sawtooth. If the ratio is - let say 20 % - there might be a chance that the kickback runs into the next following sawtooth-pattern.

Now back to the magneto : The configuration of the german website is the one in my favour because this principle here is the mechanical interrupter which cuts of the current in the primary at a certain angle-position and thus works close to what I have described above.

http://www.motoruf.de/mo/info/Arbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php

Just look at the pic below the Heading :
"ARBEITSWEISE DER TECUMSEH-MAGNETZÃœNDUNG "

It is almost the same configuration of  the presnet coil-design of Thanes Perepiteia.

I am really sorry - but I could not find any english website presenting this very information. But I will try - if there is time - to translate this into english and present it here.

@BEP : Look at the attached pic. Here I performed the cap-switch-experiment of user nul_points. You can see
the full level of voltage in the beginning and then the slope-down as current increases which reflects itself due to the coil-resistance as voltage-drop.

I will present another scopeshot of the scame circuit at the same moment of time - in the next post - of the current-rising-up at  2-ohm-Resistor placed in the source of the Mosfet-switch.

Regards

Kator01

Kator01

Hi BEP,

here is the other pic of current rising up.


Regards

Kator01


gyulasun

Quote from: Kator01 on November 28, 2008, 10:20:15 AM

Now back to the magneto : The configuration of the german website is the one in my favour because this principle here is the mechanical interrupter which cuts of the current in the primary at a certain angle-position and thus works close to what I have described above.

http://www.motoruf.de/mo/info/Arbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php

Just look at the pic below the Heading :
"ARBEITSWEISE DER TECUMSEH-MAGNETZÃœNDUNG "

It is almost the same configuration of  the presnet coil-design of Thanes Perepiteia.

I am really sorry - but I could not find any english website presenting this very information. But I will try - if there is time - to translate this into english and present it here.



Hi Folks,

Here is a google translation from German to English,  much better than guessing:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motoruf.de%2Fmo%2Finfo%2FArbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en

rgds,  Gyula