Joule Thief

[maw2432]

@ IST  and everyone wanting to make money -  This is also one more reason to open source vs.  patents!!!

Check out the movie titled "Flash of Genius"  just released at BlockBuster.   True story based on the struggle of the guy who invented the intermittent windshield wipers and his fight against the big auto industry even though he had 5 patents. 

Inventors should really see this movie.   

Bill

[gadgetmall]

YOU ARE ARE YOU ...................................


LOL LOL

DID THEY OFFER YOU YOUR MULTI PASS!?!?!?!?!?!?!

LOL

THEY SUCK!!!!

ASK THEM ABOUT THERE FUEL LESS CAR!!!

LOL


THEY ROBB THEY STEAL  .......  AND PAY YOU SHIT!!!!!   

ASK ME AGIN WHERE I DRAW CONCLUSIONS FROM 

DONT BELEAVE ME .....  GO ASK RICHARD .... LOL

THEY WILL FAIL....   WHY?!?!?!?!?!   CUZ THEY CAN NOT PATTEND IT ..... 

DO NOT THINK WHAT YOU HAVE DONE GADGET IS NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   PERHAPS NEW TO YOU LOL

THEY WILL GAIN NO PATTENDS IF THEY DO IT IS BECAUSE THEY STOLE......................................



I HAVE LAYED MY CLAIMES 3 YEARS AGO AND I CONTINUE TO DO SO


BE THIS KNOWEN IF YOU STEAL FROM ME ......       I WILL NOT BE BROKE ALL MY LIFE ...........................


AND I WILL RECLAIM ALL OF MY WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     

I KNOW YEARS AGO WHAT I HAVE DONE ....       

KEEPS ME IN MY GAME!!!!


IST!!!



THINK TWICE ...   I HAVE ... 

NOW WHO WANTS REAL FREE ENGERY ??

I CAN BE CONTACTED VIA ISTEAM .CA AS WELL I WORK WITH MK1...  REMEMBER WHOS    RING IT IS .... 

HENCE WHO WILL BE GRANTED THE PATTEND .... LOL

IM NOT WORRIED BOUT PATTENDS ... AS I CAN PATTEND WHAT I LIKE 

WHY!?!?!?!?!

HEY JUST LOOK AT PNP NPN AND NO BODY IS THERE YET PUBLIC ANYHOW... 

WELL

THINK ABOUT IT   WERE YOU OFFERED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ...   I WAS!!!! 



MONEY IS THE LIE ..................................  LOL

BTW THAT WAS NOT JUST 1 BILLION BUT 100'S OF THEM

LOL

THEN THEY TELL ME AFTER I TEACH THEM I HAVE NOTHING ... 

HENCE HERE WE ARE .....................   NOW I GUESS THEW WHOLE WORLD HAS NOTHING   IN THERE EYES .... BUT WE KNOW BETTER

SURE THEY WILL SAY O JUST GET IT DONE I WILL PAY FOR IT ...  LOL   

SURE THEY WILL    .....   

SO WHEN THEY WALK AND STIFF YOU WITH THE BILL .....  YOU WILL KNOW ... I HAVE A 1000 DOLLAR CNC BILL..............

THANKS .....   BUT THE WHOLE WORLD HAS FREE ENGERY THAT THE BAD GUYS WILL NOT PATTEND AND IF THEY DO

I WILL HAVE THERE PATTENDS REVOKED 

THINK I CANT DO IT ?!?!?!?!

PERHAPS YOU READ ALL MY PAST POSTS...  LOL AND WHEN THINGS CLICK

I CAN SAY TOLD YOU SO .....   LOL

Ist I'm doing it for free dude .I didn't ask for a dime other than to be part of something world changing 

[Pirate88179]

@ Bill:

I'll bet that is a great movie.  I will see if I can find it online.  (I watch all of my movies online, most of them before they are released in video/dvd format)

My opinion once again:  Patents are useless.  Until someone goes through this they may think otherwise but, again my opinion, I went through it and it is a waste of time and money and useless.  Of course, everyone is free to think what they want, I have no problems with differing opinions.  Look at Tesla (I just read another book about him) Marconi, Edison and many others all jumped many of his patents and........he died a poor man.

Bill

[gadgetmall]

Hi gadgetmall,

I included the calculation as mere example for the induction formula, did not mean to refer to any circuits here (though the numbers are not unrealistic at all for a beefy joule thief). 
Regarding your data, a 10,000 mcd white LED normally consumes indeed 20mA forward current @3.2V forward voltage to light as "superbright" LED  @10,000 mcd and within specified viewing angle (ranging 10-25 degree).

So my question is: what you wish to say with your "total bright" description: is the brightness of the 4 LEDs (with the .9V @ .81mA input from battery) is about 1:1 comparable with the brightness of the same LEDs driven by a DC power supply at 3.2V @ 20mA each) and watched from the same viewing angle?  (Because the 10,000 mcd brightness comes out from a superbright type LED if your input is like the 3.2V @20mA, from data sheet.)

Do not get me wrong, I do not question the efficiency or COP of your circuit, I simply would like to understand "brightnesses".

Putting it otherwise, let's say your circuit is built into a electric torch case and you use it in total darkness, holding that torch in your hand near and above a book for reading it,  and say the 4 LEDs total consumption is  .81 mA from  .9 V: can you comfortably read, without forcing your eyes at all?
This situation is totally comfortable for reading in the above situation when the LEDs get 3.2V @20mA each directly or from a separate conventional circuit.

Thanks and keep up your excellent work,
Gyula

Its what i consider usable Light and im half blind    .No i'm not over driving em or anything but yea i can read from them and it lights a room up at night but you know i know what dim is . Dim is what My earth battery produces on its worst day abut 20 % and you have to be pitch dark to get any use out of it . Normally its 40 % and light the computer room up at night so i dont stub my toes But i  really do thank the scientific explanation for that because it is Great information to have and you know it will be used . Take a circuit made with a calculation and you know we can make it even better current wise . . Keep up the great work and keep it coming !!. Just because i can't understand why some calculations don't flush with some of these projects is not meant to be Negative . Thanks Guy for replying to me .
Al

[gadgetmall]

THERE IS 1 WAY TO MAKE MONEY FROM THIS AND WE ALL ARE DOING IT ...

NO OTHER WAY ....

SELL IT TO YOUR NEIBOUR .... 



IST!!

IF YOU WANT TO MASS PRODUCE .....  THEY WANT CONTROL ... 

I WILL STAY IN MY OWN CONTROL .....  NOT THERES ...  ACCEPT THERE MONEY ... THEY OWN YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   LOL

I WILL NOT SELL MY SOUL............................


THE CHOISE YOURS.............

BTW NOTICE.... WHO DOESENT HAVE A ELIETE TITLE BESIDE THERE NAME ..........  ALSO TAKE NOTE TO WHO BEEN SLAMED WITH  COMPUTER PROBLEMS..............................   

NOT THE ORIGINAL MK2 CREATOR?!?!?!?!?!

HUMMMMMMM

BUT IT IS OK GADGET YOUR ONLY DEALING WITH  HEMF...................  RESONANCE ....      LOL AND ONLY HALF OF IT AT THAT ... 

WICH RESOSNANCE IS AN EFFECT OF THE CAUSE .... LOL

AND IT ALL HINGES ON THE LIL KICK .... I EXPOSED LONG AGO ......  I WAS NOT ALONE THEN I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT NOW ......   LOL

BEMF IS A LIE .......................

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS A LONG TIME ....  BOCK IT ?!?!?!   DO YOU WANT TESLAS OWN WORDS................  I THOUGH SO ....

NOW GET MONEY OFF YOUR MIND....  I HAVE LIVED ON LESS THAN ANY OF YOU ................   DOUBT ME ?!?!?!?!

I STILL HAVE A LIST OF INVESTORS ..........................    LOL

BUT IM OPEN SOURCE....   

Chill out William. your paranoid bro . Its got nothing to do with you . and i got a son thats as young as you  some of this stuff i did 30 years ago . . ok . Its got nothing to do with mk or you . I didnot hack his computer . he is My friend . i thought . GEZZZZZ .


@all  My Mods are here . I have hid nothing and contributed what is considered the Best info   that has helped further the life of a dead  battery further than it every had been . I was the FIRST ONE to do the lowest current draw for an led circuit on this Site   OPEN SOURCE .same for the Fugi . If i wasnt , someone show me a dated Circuit with better Current draw than mine or for that Fact Jeanna's because she actually came up with the very first actually  Measurement and i believe it was .70 ma per led . Still better than any circuit on the net .and she lit 40 i believe. . We are the only ones who took the time to take some action and measurements for the Benefit of all of you  . Even a Commerical Jt can't do it better now . . You think so . prove it / So now i know how Jesus felt when Judas Betrayed him . And you know what . I Still Love ya all .And i will share what i got if you even care to see it .

GN
Gadget .