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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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resonanceman

Quote from: guruji on November 20, 2009, 05:24:42 PM
HI Gadgetmall very interesting about the heater. Even a water heater would work with your circuit you're mentioning? It would be a very good invention man
About the cap can one use a smaller one or a DC one?
Thanks man keep on with the good work.

guruji

I was wondering  the same thing about smaller caps  ..... I wonder  if  another kind of cap  could work


As  I understand  it .......with what  Gadget  has  right now ........ a water heater  ellement  could be used  as the load ..........but  the  cap  will take about 8 hours to charge  ....then it will discharge in a few minutes .  ....... the water hearter element  is also to large to get as hot as a short piece of nicrome  wire .
( I am sure Gadget  will improve on this 8 hour time )

I was thinking that a small cap  dumped  a few times a second might be more powerful than a large cap  dumped a few times a day .

I am also  remembering  I read somewhere that  a cap made  in cylinder form ......as in made from tubes  spaced within  one another  has some OU properties .

I also read that  the  large cans on  the Testakica  are  caps with coils inside  of them  . 

HHHhhhhhmmmm

Would  a large   JT coil inside  a cylindrical  cap would inductively couple  with the cap ?

Any  ideas on  what to use for a dielectric ?
I tried making  a large cap  when I was  posting on the Stubbfield  earth battery thread .    I  could not get it to hold  a charge  for even a minute .




gary

innovation_station

this is where stage 2 fits gary!

stage 1 is this entire thred in every winding config imaginable and many not showen ...


what you are wanting to do is stage 2 THE GOLD RING

this operates from stage 1 stage 1 provides amps and many to do stage 2

say you designed a coil to slam 15 wats 3 times / sec  i bet you got some dam big output there ...

see how it works ..

ist!


you see stage 2 is the same a little bit better ..  i have a special bridge rectifier for this porpus .. as a db107 WILL NOT CUT IT !   ;D  lol

i have a high amp high voltage high freq .. 240 000 watt rectifier ...

i will never build this compleat unit public .. sorry !   just because i can do things ...  does not always mean i should do them ..  i respect life i will not put in the hands of children dangrous toys ..

stage 2 can KILL YOU OK !

for this verry reason i progress VERY SLOWLY...  ;)

be carefull !   its a whole new world ...  thease things have a bad bite !

you have been warned!

w
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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Pirate88179

Jeanna:

I just ordered four 3 3/8" dia. ferrite toroids from all electronics.  I am going to try to replicate Lidmotor's Jeanna Light. (Using your big toroid winding idea) I was thinking about stacking 2 of them together and winding just as if it was one thick one.  What do you think?  have you seen Lidmotor's second video of the light where he put it into a very nice box?  He is getting 10 watts of light with only .3 watts of power input.  This is a very beautiful and special project that I would recommend to anyone.  I may need some help on the winding.  I also ordered some 5 watt wire wound pots as well.

Here is the link to Lidmotor's video in case anyone missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11nzbi59T7w&feature=subtivity


Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

gadgetmall

Quote from: resonanceman on November 20, 2009, 05:55:48 PM
guruji

I was wondering  the same thing about smaller caps  ..... I wonder  if  another kind of cap  could work


As  I understand  it .......with what  Gadget  has  right now ........ a water heater  ellement  could be used  as the load ..........but  the  cap  will take about 8 hours to charge  ....then it will discharge in a few minutes .  ....... the water hearter element  is also to large to get as hot as a short piece of nicrome  wire .
( I am sure Gadget  will improve on this 8 hour time )

I was thinking that a small cap  dumped  a few times a second might be more powerful than a large cap  dumped a few times a day .


gary
Hi gary . nichrome  wire is the way to go here . then you can control the resistance and amount of heat Verse time . I used a small piece of coil and it lit up like a light bulb . i could feel the heat on my face . IF i put say 5 or 6 feet of wire coil then the heat will be slower  and there for could last for hours . Also If one Jt charges in 8 hours Stands to reason that 8 Jts will charge it in one hour . and 16 Jts will charge it in a few minutes . IST already has the makings in mind for something similar and he will see results . I believe the big 6 inch toroid will charge this Bcap up quickly once we find the proper winding . probably using a 2n3055 or bigger transistor .
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innovation_station

or mosfets ... they work awesome if you build it right ... 

and just add more for how much you want it to push ..

10 20 30 40 50 amp i dont care ...  bang all at 1 time imagine 50amps 2.7v as an input where your 11 ma is lol

just once please visualize !

i have been seeing this crap in my mind for a lonnnnggggg time ..

:)

ist !

this is why i rarely finish anything and im already on to the next thing ...
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!