Cavitation. The key to overunity?

[ramset]

HHO cell
Thanks great offer !!
Meltdown
Thanks for that info ALL of it especially  the sphere part !! Keely had problems hooking things up to his machines to do work. I think this is all the work we need to do
Cap z ro
Having only played with the MOT [microwave transformer] now ill have to take a look at the business end
A response by Tinsel Koala on another thread regarding how to go about finding the resonance of a fluid                                                       DISCLAIMER !! TINSELKOALA WAS ANSWERING A VERY GENERAL QUESTION ON RESONANCE IN FLUIDS, NOT ABOUT THE DEVICE REPRESENTED HERE  [Although I would love to here his imput on this]
"" Seriously, it would depend on the purpose and which resonance I wanted to excite.
Many so-called fluid resonances are actually acoustic resonances of the chamber containing the fluid...

Are we trying to dissociate water into hydrogen and oxygen using resonant oscillations from a TC? I don't know if that can be done, really. The bond resonance frequencies may be too high. But certainly the secondary discharge can dissociate water.

But to first order, if you are looking for acoustical or other mechanical resonances, you can do the same thing as with the rock, with a couple of appropriate piezo sensors. You can even do it with only one piezo, if you monitor the power to it, because when you hit a resonance you will generally see the driving piezo power dip.
For higher-frequency electrical resonances the same ideas apply, you just use different transducers, depending on your theory. You could stick plates in the water, pretend it's a capacitor, put it in an LC circuit and sweep the inductance. If you hit a resonance you'll see it in the power trace. You could wrap a sensing coil around the tank, feed RF into the tank with another coil"".
        Chet

[sparks]

   One other thing to consider is that water creates intermolecular electrical bonds due to the polarization of the water molecule.  This is why water is not a gas. The high voltage either produced by the plazma in the collapsing bubble or in Meyers case produced by the electrodes is enough to cause electrically induced vaporization that does not require heat input but just a strong field voltage gradient.

[ramset]

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There are some techniques that were used by user fear jar, in the watercar forum, that user shecum[is that a nasty handle or am I just perverted] posted here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6257.0;topicseen
Combine some of fearjars techniques for beating up the water [using frequency] with Tinsel Koalas idea[posted above,NOTE DISCLAIMER ] and it could be a good start
   Chet

[Pirate88179]

It is a piezo electric transducer. There is another one in the side. One is a pickup and the other is a transmitter. It will only work to heat water in a isotropic storage tank - hence the round tank.

Thanks.  OK, here is what is probably a stupid question.  We can all heat water from ambient to boiling in less than a minute in our microwaves so.....has anyone looked at a microwave home water heater?  How would the efficiency of this compare with the standard resistance heating method?  I realize the cup of water is very small compared to 50 gallons of water but, once it is heated initially, just like the old system, it would only take a few zaps now and again to maintain the temperature level.  Of course, it would need to be encased in a Faraday cage but, that should not be a large problem.

As I said, probably a stupid question but I have always wondered why this was never done commercially.

Bill

[CrazyFox]

Re: Sparks

Inter molecular bonds in polar water. Cavitation bubbles in water tend to coalesce as a result. Add salt and all that changes. A water bubble gains a negative shell surrounding the polar inner bubble that retains a dipole. It becomes a water capacitor variable with heat even in vapor phase. Add non conducting oil in a vortex flow or ultra sound and the charge bias between the water bubble and oil builds a huge potential (Lorentz - Lorenze Equation). Discharge this across the water dipole at vapor phase implosion and an enormous plasma and fusion occurs. Because the polar water dipole in a vortex cavitation has a phase shifted dipole moment the proton bond with hydrogen nucleus is weaker and allows some hydrogen nuclei to fuse. Pistol Shrimp never figured this out and that is why we do not have a smoking gun.