Conversion of Vacuum Energy into Mechanical Energy IN THE LAB

[Koen1]

I do agree that further testing seems to be needed,
and that certain points may need to be improved upon,
like for example the vacuum, the chamber, the oil, etc.

That said, it does appear to confirm the idea that
energy in the "vacuum"/"spacetime" may be utilised
to power a mechanical rotor in this case, and that is
quite fascinating.

I think we may want to keep an eye on these developments.

[tinu]

I've just skimmed the article and it's fascinating.

Two criticisms pop out right away:
First, the chamber is too small. There will be image charges and wall effects from the proximity of the chamber walls.
Second, I don't think the vacuum was hard enough to eliminate all possible ion wind effects. I can still see ion wind effects below 1x10e-6 Torr in the apparatus I'm sitting next to right now.
Third, I have seen vacuum oil churning and flowing, in vacuo, while under the influence of an electrostatic field. Could the thrust be coming from the oil?

But rest assured that I will be attempting a replication of this experiment, as soon as the big vacuum chamber is available (that is, when the current project can be removed).

Fascinating indeed and hopefully based on something not yet known.

I would add one more question mark:
After removing the ion wind out of any concern, isn’t the whole setup just a fan blown by electron wind? Momentum conservation either in thermionic emission or in electron capture (depending on the polarity of HV source in respect to the two electrodes) shall make the blades move, even in perfect vacuum.
In analyzing the above, it’s easier to firstly consider that the ‘rotor’ is of negative polarity and to try to understand what’s going with it. In this case, at an intense field that overcomes work function, sufficient electrons are emitted normally to the surface of the blades, according to the Efield vector. Decomposing linear momentum on two axes based of the angle of the blades, leads to a component creating rotation. Now, considering conservation of total momentum (the whole setup) and the fact that that the so emitted electrons at rotor have to change direction in order to reach the stator, it is clear that existing field will impart an angular momentum on the stator too. Hence, no matter what the polarity is, the motor will still work. Following this logic, it implies that by replacing the stator electrode with a rotor, both rotors shall spin in different directions, at the expense of the work (very low electron current but high voltage) done by the HV supply.

Opinions?

I can’t wait for seeing a replication and I also take this opportunity to thank you for the GREAT contributions you bring into this forum.

Respectfully,
Tinu

[Koen1]

Well, it seems they're saying that at a certain point the actual
amperage of the input drops to near zero while the voltage is increased,
and that no actual electrical input is lost in the spinning of the rotor...
Seems to me they're implying that when vacuum is reached (or at least
comparative vacuum and ion-wind- free space inside the chamber),
the actual input current is swapped for input high voltage, which
does not really drop while the rotor spins.

But I am not entirely certain if that is only a suggested effect in total vacuum,
or if it really accords with their energy use.

I shall see if I can get in touch with the guys and ask them for some more
details and for their opinions on the matter.
Perhaps they'll want to elaborate on their experiments and theory.

Regards,
Koen

[Kator01]

Hello all,

you can write Prof.Turtur and ask all your questions or invite him here.

I have been in contact with him for some months. He sent me a mail regarding his new successful  vacuum-test a few days ago. However he mentioned in this same message that he is extremly short in time because of  preperation of final examinations for his students at the end of the year.

The principle of what his work mainly is focussed must be understood, before you read the experiment-description. It is here in the order of the list :

http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.3253

http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=119

http://philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=138

First test at standard air-pressure
http://www.philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=124

Regards

Kator01

[Koen1]

Hey now that's some usefull info,
thank you so much for that Kator!

I shall read all of the documentation again very carefully
to make sure I'm not missing something,
and will probably contact professor Turtur in the
near future.
I shall give him some time to finish his end-of-the-year
hassles as to not stress the poor man out.
But I think I will send him an email inviting him to
drop in on this thread.

Thanks again.

And cool to hear you've actually been in contact with the guy already