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Who invented the Stanly Meyers VIC Circuit?

Started by angryScientist, December 11, 2008, 01:24:13 AM

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angryScientist

Hello fellow researchers,

I've been re watching the Stan Meyers lectures and I noticed that in one of them he says the name of the person that invented the VIC for him. I couldn't hear because it was muffled.

I know by watching that Meyers did not have background in electrical theory. I believe he didn't have a clue as to how to conceive the VIC.

Again, does anybody know who he was working with. That person still has the knowledge of how to build the circuitry.

All that being said, I maintain that the chokes had a high Q or at least a high inductive reactance.

I'm not sure Meyers was ever truly schooled as to the multiplying effect of Q. Somebody around him knew, though.

BTW,
Keep your reactance up (more turns of wire, good core), your resistance low (larger gauge wire), and your self capacitance low (space your wires, opposite ends separate).

Your voltage across the capacitor will be voltage in times Q. (Radio inductors typically have Q's on the order of 100 to 800.)

May all your VIC's be high Q. ;)

angryScientist

I would like to add to the above in regards to the Stan Meyers lectures; when he says that when you hit the resonant frequency then the water "falls" apart, he is not talking about the resonant frequency of the water. He is talking about the resonant frequency of the VIC.

The VIC is a tuned circuit as talked about in radio theory. When you hit it at it's resonant frequency then the voltages within the VIC circuit are multiplied. Multiplied by what? The voltage is multiplied by that magic Q value.

I will say it again; It's not the resonant frequency of the water, it's the resonant frequency of the VIC.

MeltDown

Meyer used a mechanical resonator in his last cell and most likely a piezo in the first. That is where the fracture part came in.

The VIC was just a pulse forming network and the chokes were not equal and so you get a little snap back as the coils react differently. I suspect that is what he called rubber band effect. If you look at his toroid you have to say "Hey, that is a transformer designed to short out." Really? Look at how disruptive discharge coils were wound in the days of Tesla and before. That could also be the rubber band effect.

Also the cores are all gapped - most methods are marked with "Magnetic coupling" and I suspect that is what that means and would make sense to make the inductor a flyback since we are developing high voltage accelerator.

"Nobody ever thought of using an accelerator before" - Stan Meyer

That is my two cents worth.

dankie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6hJEmw3mes

This is the "full engineering VIC"

Just look at the size of the injector , what if that coil was small enough to fit inside the injector itself ?

http://tesla3.com/energy/images/waterfuel_meyer_injector_length_video2.jpg


There is something about stainless steel wire and the scalar waves stuff bearden talks about.


http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=304

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3UOM7is10

angryScientist

Quote from: MeltDown on December 11, 2008, 04:21:38 AM
The VIC was just a pulse forming network and the chokes were not equal and so you get a little snap back as the coils react differently.

I don't believe that is exactly how it is.

QuoteThe Inductor(C) takes on or becomes an Modulator Inductor which steps up an oscillation of an given charging frequency with the effective capacitance of an pulse-forming network in order to charge the voltage zones (E1/E2) to an higher potential beyond applied voltage input
http://www.theorionproject.org/en/documents/Stan_Meyer_Full_Data.pdf
Page 1-2

The Inductor(C)... becomes... Modulator Inductor...with... effective capacitance of... pulse-forming network

A pulse-forming network looks like
http://www.gaep.com/images/pfnabc.gif

Which is exactly what the self capacitance of an inductor looks like.
http://www.w8ji.com/Image1/spice_1.jpg
or
http://williamson-labs.com/images/decou.gif

So the self capacitance of the inductor is similar to the effective capacitance of an pulse-forming network. That is to say that the coil its self behaves similar to a pulse-forming network. Unfortunately, self capacitance in a coil creates loss and serves to reduce the inductive reactance.



QuoteThe Inductor(C) takes on or becomes an Modulator Inductor...

How does it do that? How does it modulate i.e. change the oscillation?

QuoteThe current through either the inductor or capacitor at resonance is Q times the net line current. In series resonant circuits, the voltage across either the inductor or capacitor is equal to Q times the net voltage across the complete circuit.
page 487 "Elements of Radio 3rd edition" by Abraham Marcus & William Marcus 1953



Loss is bad
http://www.hans-egebo.dk/Tutorial/images/tune04.gif
QuoteMore formally, Q is the ration of power stored to power dissipated in the circuit reactance and resistance, respectively
http://electronics-electrical-engineering.blogspot.com/2008/09/q-and-bandwidth-of-resonant-circuit.html



Quality is good
http://physics-animations.com/sensors/bfreq.gif


That is how the signal is modulated. It is increased in intensity.

That is why he called it the "Voltage Intensifier Circuit."


Q and bandwidth of a resonant circuit RESONANCE
http://electronics-electrical-engineering.blogspot.com/2008/09/q-and-bandwidth-of-resonant-circuit.html