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what about the wimhurst generator?

Started by nitinnun, December 16, 2008, 03:22:58 PM

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TinselKoala

"i used clips,
to firmly connect the positive multimeter lead,
to the positive battery terminal.

and the negative multimeter lead,
to the negative battery terminal.

8.3 volts,
at 2.63 amps,
from the 9 volt battery.
(this 9 volt has been used a little, on other things. so it is not at full charge)"

Used a little! I'll say. A nine-volt battery should be able to deliver tens of amps into a direct short, which is what an ammeter is. So, either your battery is dead, or your meter is malfunctioning, or both. If you commonly hook your ammeter directly across a power supply, without a load in series with it, no wonder it isn't working right.

Your comment about the neon working on AC is incorrect, too. It works on DC as well, as I have tried to show you. A NE-2, when hooked to AC will have both rods glowing, but when hooked to DC, or in a DC field like from your Wimshurst machine, only one rod will glow, and that depends on its polarity (or the field gradient). DC, not AC. Actually, the neon only works on DC, if you think about it. The rods alternate which one is lit, depending on the momentary polarity of the AC.


nitinnun

if my multimeter inaccurately reads amperage,
as being "LOWER" than it really is.....

than why is my multimeter reading the amperage of the wimhurst,
as being vastly,
rediculously,
insanely "HIGHER",
than it supposidely is?


why would my multimeter be inaccurately low, for testing batteries,
but inaccurately high, for testing the wimhurst?



your doubt-based arguments,
are not helping to solve this mystery.
they are making the myster even messier, than it already was.

and are threatening to bury possible new understanding,
under "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".


it is not constructive,
to "blame it all on the multimeter",
and forget about it.

that is not how innovation, comes to exist.


this mystery, does not fit well with "it's a bad multimeter".
there seems to be more basic factors, at work here.

basic factors, of energy physics.

TinselKoala

You are a person who hooks an ampmeter across a power supply with no load!

I am so flabbergasted by this that I cannot even formulate a coherent response.

I am not trying to "blame it all on the multimeter and forget it." I am trying to inform you about some details of measurement, instrument design, electrostatic devices, and so forth. But you are resistant.

Nevertheless, a couple of things are undeniable:
1) a nine-volt battery will normally indicate well above 9 volts when it is charged, and measured with a voltmeter while not attached to a load.
2) if you go out and measure your car battery in the same way you measured that nine-volt battery, you might get an interesting result.

In fact, why don't you go do that right now, and tell us what you get on your meter. Just as a check, you understand. It would be helpful if you could do it with the car running, and not. Be sure to hook that ammeter right across the battery, just as you did for the nine-volt battery, or right across the alternator outputs.


nitinnun


*holds out empty hand*.

do you see what i am holding, tinsel?
that is right. i am holding NOTHING.

because NOTHING,
is the amount of USEFULNESS,
that you have contributed,
to this thread.



*extends middle fingers*

do you see what i am holding now, tinsel?
that is right. i am holding my opinion of you.

because 2 birds flying,
is my opinion,
of your opinion.



*opens front door*

do you see what i am holding now, tinsel?
that is right. i'm holding the ******** front door open.
because i'm walking away from these ******** forums, forever.


i have had enough.
enough of the:

unlimited unimportance,
defocusing rambling,
auto-denialism,
hardwired unchangability,
6-feet-under-burial-of-the-truth,
snide viciousness,
bottomless negativity,
ultimate-denial-of-relevancy,
and soul-level-destruction-of-my-meaning,
to be found here.


i am tired of having my dreams needlessly **** upon.
i am tired of having my motivation STOLEN, by those who will never contribute.
i am tired of total ********* like koen1 and hans, making vampiric-touch-attacks, against the quality of my life.
to extend their cursed, undead existances.



in the future, i "might" come back to share important discoveries that i have made.
i "might" even post pictures, of one of my developments.

but from this moment on,
i am cutting off overunity dot com,
from all access to my thoughts.

to say nothing of my heart.




i hope that one of you gets the honor, of solving the worlds energy problems one day.

goodbye.

TinselKoala

Bye.

But I have to point out that you asked a question at the start of this thread, and I answered it honestly and to the best of my ability.
I do have some experience in these matters and I was, and am, willing to share with you what I have learned. But you have to be willing to receive it, which you clearly are not.

I suggest that, in the future, when you ask a question, you should be prepared to hear answers that you may not agree with.

Someday, ask someone else about hooking up your ammeter directly across a battery or power supply.