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[Hoppy]

Hi Fausto

I ran my high resistance coil on a Bedini rotor and found a couple of sweet spots without C1. With C1 in circuit I could only get self-oscillation. Connecting the output (C2 pos) to the battery resulted in the lowest current draw around 5mA but no self-charging with or without C1. I can only think that there is something special about the fan that Gadgetmall is using. The only other possibility is that his meter battery is low which could cause reading errors.

Hoppy

[plengo]

Ok guys, my first results using a Lead Acid Battery running the SSG (aka gadgetmall) in self-oscilation mode (the fan is not rotating) is that it is indeed increasing the voltage of my battery.

It is using a wopping 3.45ma (I know hilarious) but still managing to charge the battery. It is charging the battery so slow that even letting any battery sitting in a corner would loose more energy faster than this is gaining, but nonethless it is indeed charging. No, it is not depleted battery on my meters because I am using 4 different meters and I charge their batteries many times a day. Now here is the even more hilarious, it increased the voltage in a huge amount of .... 0.01v (I know it is ridiculous).

I have tested this battery discharge in the same rate (3.45ma) and it will loose 0.01v in less them 1 hour but running this modified SSG will gain that much in a few hours so there is something here.

There is a fine line where the resistance in the pot at the base of the transistor start making the total consumption go up when you decrease the resistance or decrease, but there is a spot where the current usage it the minimum (as in hitting the bottom of a bell shaped curve). Only there the system works.

My next step is to create a second SSG mod circuit and try it with the fan spinning.

Below are pictures of two probes connected at the bottom of C1 (see previous posts) and at the anode of D2. First is both signals separated and the second is both with their zero at the center of the screen to show their superposition. This time you can not see the high voltage spikes simply because they are totally absorved by the battery. Third picture is one probe only at anode of D2 at 10x and 5v divisions (all pictures are at 5v division 1x probe except the third and fourth picture) with the return path to the battery disconnect so that you can see the high voltage spikes and the fourth picture is the same as the third plus the other probe at the C1.

BTW, this does not work with gel cell or sealed lead acid battery neither capacitors.

Fausto.

[gadgetmall]

Hi Fausto

I ran my high resistance coil on a Bedini rotor and found a couple of sweet spots without C1. With C1 in circuit I could only get self-oscillation. Connecting the output (C2 pos) to the battery resulted in the lowest current draw around 5mA but no self-charging with or without C1. I can only think that there is something special about the fan that Gadgetmall is using. The only other possibility is that his meter battery is low which could cause reading errors.

Hoppy

Hello Hoppy . No My fluke battery is new , I also have 4 DMMS and 4 analogs .. they indicate Voltage rise .. There is one thing Special  maybe two..or three
No1. the keeper is off the fan .....No2  the fan is mounted with the blades down and is holding itself with the magnitisim  no. 3 i put a hard drive magnet on the fan to help hold it on . (i forgot about it because it was black and My eyes arnt that great .. So it might be getting extra pulses from the extra magnet  ? i don't know all i know is it works . At least you see it is a very efficient circuit , way more than a normal Bedini ..It  does its best with the fan just barley turning .. 

[gadgetmall]

Ok guys, my first results using a Lead Acid Battery running the SSG (aka gadgetmall) in self-oscilation mode (the fan is not rotating) is that it is indeed increasing the voltage of my battery.

It is using a wopping 3.45ma (I know hilarious) but still managing to charge the battery. It is charging the battery so slow that even letting any battery sitting in a corner would loose more energy faster than this is gaining, but nonethless it is indeed charging. No, it is not depleted battery on my meters because I am using 4 different meters and I charge their batteries many times a day. Now here is the even more hilarious, it increased the voltage in a huge amount of .... 0.01v (I know it is ridiculous).

I have tested this battery discharge in the same rate (3.45ma) and it will loose 0.01v in less them 1 hour but running this modified SSG will gain that much in a few hours so there is something here.

There is a fine line where the resistance in the pot at the base of the transistor start making the total consumption go up when you decrease the resistance or decrease, but there is a spot where the current usage it the minimum (as in hitting the bottom of a bell shaped curve). Only there the system works.

My next step is to create a second SSG mod circuit and try it with the fan spinning.

Below are pictures of two probes connected at the bottom of C1 (see previous posts) and at the anode of D2. First is both signals separated and the second is both with their zero at the center of the screen to show their superposition. This time you can not see the high voltage spikes simply because they are totally absorved by the battery. Third picture is one probe only at anode of D2 at 10x and 5v divisions (all pictures are at 5v division 1x probe except the third and fourth picture) with the return path to the battery disconnect so that you can see the high voltage spikes and the fourth picture is the same as the third plus the other probe at the C1.

BTW, this does not work with gel cell or sealed lead acid battery neither capacitors.

Fausto.

Very Nice and Congrats on your Sucess replicating My Circuit . thank you for proving  i am not nuts Try the magnet on the fan and invert the fan so gravity pull on the fan itself and lose the keeper (be careful the back bearing tends to slip up and then you have to reset it . )
.01 volts is still a Gain . and with a bit more tuning you will get it . BTH  Youll  see once you get the  YKW  .The Effect you are seeing is Close to exactly what i am seeing . You need a Well Conditioned Wet cell battery Conditioned with a Bedini . Charged and Discharged many times . It will receive the Charge form our powersupplybedini a lot faster .Also i LOVE your Scope Shots , that tell the Story just like i said . . and i DOn't think i have ever Seen such a perfect h waveform ..
Best Regards
Albert

[plengo]

@gadgetmall

I did the trick with the magnet and put the fan upside down. Definitely it improved it. The magnet helped in keeping the "beating" or pulse to its minimum while still spinning without over speeding and using too much current. My setup now is using about 6 to 8ma and spins at 200 to 300 rpm. With the magnet I am able to keep it just spinning slow enough but because of the weight of the magnet it is enough to continue spinning until the next pulse which keeps things going (inertia helps).

I am trying to accomplish with the slow speed is to have 50 or more pulses per rotation which ARE the radiant spikes that recharges the battery while the transistor is turning off, therefore sending the signal back to the battery when the current is NOT flowing FROM the battery. It is very tricky because Bedini said many times that you can not charge a battery when it is in running mode. In other words, one can not take current out and put it in "at the same time", BUT one can take current out, stop and put current in, which is exactly what we are doing here (current or radiant energy in this case).

Concerning the battery being "condidionted", I not only agree with you but also kind of theorized (quietly to myself) that it is working for you because exactly that. When the battery is conditioned it will convert the radiant spike into real energy much faster. I was even going to ask you that but you said it already on the last post (THANK YOU). This totally confirmed my theory that the next step would be to make it run with the same signal that I have before (show on my previous post's pictures) but with many more spikes (and here is a few pictures to show my new waves).

Another interesting thing is, if I run this system not tunned properly and while it runs it runs the battery down, lets say I run it for 2 hours. I can stop it and let the battery rest and it will charge itself up to a higher voltage all by itself. This is in total agreement with what Bedini said about radiant energy and his technologies. I have not being able, YET, to make it self-runner with the FAN running, only in self-oscilation mode.

I guess it is only a matter of experimenting more and trying to fine tune it with different transistors, diodes, resistances on the base of the transistor and capacitors. I will get there.

Fausto.