ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[forest]

Ok,simulation code

$ 1 5.0E-6 119.19350207351468 52 5.0 50
v 432 528 432 256 0 0 40.0 12.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
S 592 256 592 176 0 1 false 0
l 592 336 592 528 0 3.0 5.000000095818947E-6
w 592 576 592 528 0
w 432 576 432 528 0
w 592 576 432 576 0
w 432 256 432 176 0
w 432 176 576 176 0
w 592 256 592 336 0
z 592 256 432 256 1 1.0 14.0
o 2 128 0 35 0.3125 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 0 64 0 35 20.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 9 64 0 35 20.0 9.765625E-5 2 -1

[nievesoliveras]

I told you that a long time ago those simulators made me think I had OU.

I lost it when a virus that attacked the  win32 executables hit my machine and rendered it useless for a long time.

I will try to install it again and use it just to see if the parts go well one with the others.

[forest]

Tito, please help a bit with tip  . Would ordinary car relay in self-oscillating mode can work in ozone patent (just a tiny bit of it so we could see it works the way we are searching for) ? or we should start to whirl 

[pese]

This is an interesting variation.  Actually I looked back at the Popular Electronics article and it is the same as you show, using the SIDAC as the switch. I am experimenting tonight with some zeners as the switch.  i think they might work as they do in the sim, not great for this application. Will find out.  I tried to put 2 zeners in series to make a SIDAC, but Im not sure yet if it is the same.


Mags

An SIDAC (I worked with them 25years ago)
are workink like Trigger diodes ( ER900 ans so on)

Voltages can go up to an "know" value
and break than down to (near) ZERO Volt,
can be handeld up to several amperes .
(as an switch)
That was an Invention, to replace
SCR (Thyrsistors) and Triac (bilateral Thyristors)

This was vey unusual , i dont know only one
electronic engineer tha have worked with them

If you will replace this , (for working in same ways). you will
try to use Znerdiode AND one SCR .

Pese !

[gyulasun]

Thank you.
I'm not sure if I understood but if I connect coil to DC battery, charge it with current then disconnect coil squeeze trapped electrons and become source of voltage in opposite orientation then battery yet electrons flow in the same direction but slowing due to difference in potential across coils ?

Well, yes the potential difference will work against the original current because the resultant potential is still in opposite direction wrt the earlier battery polarity so the current gradually decreases. If you do not have load across the coil, then all the big spike (after current switch-off) charges up the coil's self and stray capacitance and the very moment all the potential went into the capacitor, current in the coil becomes zero: a normal LC tank circuit behavior and the stored energy starts swinging.
If you have a load across the coil then the spike drives current through that load.

Then if we immediately connect coil back to source battery what would happen ? 

Because the voltage polarity across the coil is opposite to that of the battery, you cannot connect it back directly again, because the difference would still be with opposite polarity.  IF you had two parallel guided wires in the coil, insulated from each other, i.e. a bifilar coil, or a 1:1 transformer if you like, then you could make the second coil (which is in the same collapsing field) completely battery-pole independent so that the ends of the second coil could be connected back to the battery in the correct polarity via a diode.

Could it be that coil having higher voltage then battery would recharge battery back (minus some lost energy during disconnection time )  ? Maybe we should place a diode which will redirect trapped electrons from - side of coil back to - terminal of battery ? Hmm ..or from + side of coil ? Anyway we really do not need those electrons, let them return back to source.

If you want to return them back, why would you launch them out at all? What benefit would electron moving give you? Bearden always says: do not brake the dipole (here the battery), use only the potential...

I'm wondering if Tito would be so nice to help here.We have two choices:
1. Somehow return back electrons from coil to the source battery
2. Let them stuck inside coil so the next time coil is shorted it won't take much of them from battery

hmm..Tito place your bet ... 1 or 2

I think none of them...   What Tito may have been using is charging up capacitors gradually to a higher and higher potential from one or more collapsing flux field(s) and then comes his secret... how to utilize the high potential.  If he is correct and does not talk big, that is.

Gyula

EDIT: DO NOT trust circuit simulators, always consider the results with suspicion!!!