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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on November 16, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
once again  i want to share this to everyone. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHDCcUcmc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpmdgeF_ho
The first is an expression of common motivational speeches.  The Reader's Digest version is: "Look where you want to go."

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gyulasun

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  :)     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk
This is power amplification ?

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Hi Nelson,

Your question cannot be answered from your video. To give an answer, you would need to check the input current taken from your 11V battery when the motor runs from the output of your setup. And then compare the average Vdc*Idc input power to the output current times the output voltage running the motor. This would also involve measuring the output voltage across the motor and the output current the motor draws.

IF you do not have 2 voltage meters and 2 current meters (all DC) then use the single meter, moving it in steps, first to check the input current taken by your running circuit from the battery (when the output runs the motor of course), second to check the output current that runs the motor and third to check the DC output voltage across the running motor.

This way you can learn about a much better reality on the power levels involved. I assume there is some filtering at your output like a puffer capacitor from which your DC motor runs, so that your digital Ampermeter may measure as close values to the truth as the cleanness of the DC output current lets it. Perhaps a choke coil would help further clean the DC output if you run the motor through a choke coil and also use a puffer  capacitor directly parallel with the motor, after the series choke.
Saying this otherwise: use an LC low pass filter to check the true DC power taken by the motor from your circuit output. OF course the use of such LC low pass filter at the input of the circuit can help clean the measurement of the input current too.  Obviously, the currents can be checked by your new scope too: just insert an 1 Ohm (or 0.1 Ohm etc) current shunt resistor in series with the input batterry wire and measure the voltage drop across it with your scope (scope should have DC input coupling).

I mention all this because it is very 'spectacular' you compare the motor run first from 11V battery, then you run it from your circuit, the higher RPM from the output sounds very convincing indeed. However the label on your motor says it is a 30V DC motor if I understand it correctly, so trying to run a 30V motor from 11V can only result in a low RPM working.

Looking forward to your further video(s) as you mention, keep up the good work.

Greetings,
Gyula

Bob Smith

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
The topic is ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  :)     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thFuT4FaLdk
This is power amplification ?
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Alejandro
Very cool!  I see a relay wired in reverse to self-oscillate and the stator of an AC induction motor, like you might find in a cheap coffee grinder, some caps of varying sizes, some rectifiers and diode; and of course, the characteristic green spark of RE. 
That's what it's all about, no?  Using stuff we can find lying around and doing extraordinary things with it.  I would love to see more details.
Felicidades, irmao! :)
Bob

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Bob Smith on November 17, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
Alejandro
Very cool!  I see a relay wired in reverse to self-oscillate and the stator of an AC induction motor, like you might find in a cheap coffee grinder, some caps of varying sizes, some rectifiers and diode; and of course, the characteristic green spark of RE. 
That's what it's all about, no?  Using stuff we can find lying around and doing extraordinary things with it.  I would love to see more details.
Felicidades, irmao! :)
Bob

Hi Bob i'm not Alejandro :) I'm Nelson i think you are mistake about person but no problem :)
About the circuit is not  so simple as you describe , the problem is that circuit is make with scrap and people do not pay enough attention to some details.
The flare is not green because the relay contacts or cooper oxidation:) i can show a video where this color can be violet (BEMF generated in the coil of relay) or green when i combine with the BEMF generated by the stator coil and stored in the one of the caps . The result as you can see give a amplification in the output , and i show with the motor run with and without circuit  .


Thanks for your message  Bob