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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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WhatIsIt

There are also many paintigs of God.
So, if I show you painting with God on it, you imediatelly know that He exists?
But only few claimed that they saw Him. Prophets.

To see virus on picture is not the same as work with it.
Only small number of scientists are actually working with Corona virus.
And there are many kinds of scientists. Not all of them are working with viruses.

You are scientist too. Otherwise, you would not be here on this forum.
Did you saw Corona virus in person? Or been in same room with virus?

So, you can only believe what others tell you about that virus.

Believe is key word here.

Scientists believe what other scientists or persons tell them, or not.
But they believe just as religious man believe in God.

At the end everyone believe in something.
Everyone.


WhatIsIt

Quote from: onepower on August 07, 2020, 10:35:56 AM


I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours.



Do you also like how religious people cut heads of journalist.?
Or how they teach kids to carry machine gun and kill they neighbours.?
Or how religious man in middle ages burned people on stake?

Everything in the name of God.

They also integrate theism with their lives.

Why scientists does not do that horrors?

So, you can believe in Tito as much as you want.
He integrated theism in his life, and do not want to help the world with his FE,
and you like that?


elanimus

onepower,

Yeah, brainwashed as in indoctrinated into a ludicrous set of beliefs. Let us first agree in what God means. God is a universal symbol for the Limitlessness essentially, don't you agree? The different religions of the world which were brought about by great civilizations simply express this idea symbolically using stories. Not all of them told it in human and mythical stories, some of them actually wrote directly about the metaphyics. But Religion as well as language are imperfect, they are imperfect symbols which connect to some idea. Since God is a symbol of the unknown we have no choice but to tell it and reduce it in terms of known, easy objects. For instance, the movies the Matrix, Interstellar, Avatar etc.. are founded in subtler wisdom traditions which are boring or incomprehinslbe or insane if expressed directly. God is simply the Universe , manifest or unmanifest. You have to realize your tiny, limited, and impotent nature in this existence. The stories and myths about God are only palpable descriptions of this same reality that scientist are trying to dissect. Modern scientists too have imaginary friends(symbols) and angels; the photon particles, protons and electrons, quarks. Black hole? Haha the hindu God Krisna literally means black. Big bang theory, like what the heck is that? I mean there are cosmologies in the ancient world way more advanced than that and congruent. All symbolic language has its imperfection but it doesn't mean its wrong, we have to recognize the the fundamental effort which is to understand. What is proof to you? Proof is imperfect, it can be misinterpreted, your assumptions decide what kind of proof you require. And yes WhatIsIt mentioned it but basically most atheits are not really atheists, they always believe in something. They believe anything "science" sayd, scientists are priests today although nobody knows something that deeply. Although i suspect the inventions of the world came about from some type of mystical insights into the universe. Tesla's fascination with the esoteric and i read today that Da Vinci for instance was deeply interested in "proportion", which is the Logos or the Word that Jesus uniquely represented. A divine proportion or a balance between soul and spirit.



WhatIsIt,

I have very little knowledge in electricity and magnetism and FE but i really believe it is possible. And some experts here seem to believe that there is merit in what Tito is saying.

Yeah, atheism cannot exist. It's simply impossible. Most atheists are just angry and resentful about the injustices(personal otherwise) their past religion seems to be causing.


onepower,

Who exactly is not living in an imaginary world? What is your clear criteria for dividing the real and the unreal? Are you sure that criteria is true and not indoctrinated?
Yes, people seem to be religious or atheists to escape a certain confusion or pain like an addict. The higher way is understanding and transcendence. This is different from escape in the fact that you are not running away from anything, you are actually getting close to yourself, and to the source of your hurt. This central theme runs through all religion. 

You may not need "imaginary friends" as you call them but your mind is undeniably full of imaginations or creations, its simply a necessity. You need balance and a higher state of mind in your life wherever you may be now, and the religions merely echoed this message for the masses. Yeah, i totally agree about the benefits of the "hermit lifestyle", there is no distraction and your attention will become more subtler. This sort of the reason why people who live in the jungle have more keen senses and how sometimes deaf/blind/slow people tend to be prodigies in some field.


Religious dogma the behaviours of missionaries or how people exploited religion, is separate from the general message. All in all, ideas about God have probably benefited mankind out of our dark selfish energies. Religion was a natural development of societal awareness.

I will learn how to quote later but someone said this:  I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours.

Actually, Tito is exactly right, FE requires a subtler understanding of our physical reality which is connected to the spiritual. The foundation of all of these is God. I am slightly familiar with Walter Russell, Itzhak Bentov, Jacob Boeme etc.. and these people have actually perceived the world in different ways as did tesla. They understood the aether and other subtler bodies. This is not a new thing but it requires some sort of perfected consciousness. James clerk maxwell who was kind of pivotal was also a deeply religious person.


Do you also like how religious people cut heads of journalist.?
Or how they teach kids to carry machine gun and kill they neighbours.?
Or how religious man in middle ages burned people on stake?

Yes, these are all collateral damage by imperfect people and society. Attachement to belief is not unique to religion actually. False ego is the root of all that you mentioned.


Why scientists don't murder people? First of all, this is wrong. Christians today don't murder people, normally. Christians are much more genial and loving usually, you seem to ignore this fact. Chrisitans are more peaceful and athiestic countries seem to be filled with serial killers, murder, crime cause there is no consequence. Christians lashout at some intolerable extremity but that usually is because many chrisitans are not sincere and they get attached to wrong doctrines of hate/division. Scientists today may be attached to their theories and actually murder whole generations by stopping progress and this is what seems to be happening nowadays.


Regards




WhatIsIt

Why do you claim that all scientists are christians?
Only christians are scientists?

I said that scientists does not cut heads of journalists.
I did not mention christians.

But then again who made atomic bomb?

You wrote lots of things. Mostly true.

And Tito is right. He does not share his FE. Lots of people die from hunger and they become spirits and that is Titos connection to spirituality.
Thats true.

elanimus

I didn't really claim that. It might just be my biased experience but from what i have seen and read, most scientists of the past weren't driven by "There is No God" sentiments. They were inspired by the mysterious workings of Nature. They were in love with God and trying to get closer. They knew that God referred to the infinite & divine universe. The reactionary hatred/contempt of atheists towards Christians is not directed at the central themes but other tangents & dogma. And dogma is not unique to religion.. its just a phenomenon when something stultifies or forgotten. For instance, Tesla said the following:

"Buddhism and Christianity are the greatest religions both in number of disciples and in importance."

Now both religions may have their dogmas but their beneficial central teachings are undeniable.

Alright i was trying to make a point since most people accuse religion of being just about war and destruction. The lower parts of my previous message was a response for both onepower and you.

Yeap, atomic bomb. And the education system nowadays seems like a pyramid scheme but we are not blaming eduction.

If Tito has discovered FE it will be revealed in time. There is a reason people don't share it, Tesla probably worked it all out among other people. Check this quote from tesla:

"Perhaps the most valuable application of wireless energy will be the propulsion of flying machines, which will carry no fuel and will be free from any limitations of the present airplanes and dirigibles.  We shall ride from New York to Europe in a few hours.  International boundaries will be largely obliterated and a great step will be made toward the unification and harmonious existence of the various races inhabiting the globe.  Wireless will not only make possible the supply of energy to region, however inaccessible, but it will be effective politically by harmonizing international interests; it will create understanding instead of differences."

Makes me wonder about the flying saucers. Tesla never wrote his "rational" & "complete" theories about energy and matter.  :(

EDIT: http://www.gongoff.com/nikola-tesla/who-is-god-nikola-tesla-explains

JOURNALIST: You said that I am, like all creatures, the light. This flatters me, but I admit I do not understand quite well.

TESLA: Why should you understand, Mr. Smith? Just believe it. Everything is light. In one of its ray is the fate of nations, each nation has its own ray in the great source of light which we see as the sun. And remember: no one, who had existed, is dead. They transformed into the light, and so still exist. The secret lies in the fact that the light particles restore their original state.

JOURNALIST: This is the resurrection!

TESLA: I prefer to call it: return to the previous energy. Christ and some others knew the secret. I did some research how to preserve human energy. It is a form of light, sometimes equal to the heavenly light. I have not done the research for myself, but for the good of all. I believe that my discoveries will make life easier and more bearable to people, and direct them to spirituality and morality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAFVV-WxrM