ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Doug1]

Now it has me thinking more.
The lever or cantileaver is used to multiply force sacrificing distance but what if your distance requirements are not so great. Like rowing a ship with many paddles and many people. Once the ship gets going momentum will take over to some degree.
If the flux is movement rather then having one winding of many turns maybe many small seperate windings of nearly no turns or the least turns would reguire little power to a longer secondary or even a collection of the same. It would be interesting to know if it is a case of normally having a great deal of waste then trying to figure ways to resolve the waste outside the cause of the problem. That would certainly insure a great level of difficulty in getting unity over 1.
Boy wouldnt that be a bitch,like looking for a better shock absorber to over come the ride from your square tire.

[gyulasun]

Thanks Iflew
But what I am looking for is to find a balance between the cap and inductor.  There is a so called full resonance, in which the balance is of equal energy between the cap and inductor. Sure there can be resonance between any combo, but when equaled, there is no comparison.  =]   

I have searched for this answer and have not found it yet.   Thanks for the site though, I liked the way it does the calc as in, it allows any parameter to be calculated easily.

Mags

Hi Mags,

Would really like to understand what you think of but no clue...  would you describe it in some more detail?  Never heard of 'full resonance' or of  'balance between the cap and inductor'...  Probably it is the words that block me (English is my second language) but if you could put it otherwise it may be of help to understand you.

Thanks, Gyula

[Magluvin]

Hey Gyula
I have read that any cap and coil can have resonant frequencies.  But, when the cap and inductor are of equal energy storing capabilities, the resonance is best.  Maybe I am not saying it right.  Im still searching for that statement.

Hey Doug

Im not sure the Hatem devices claims, if real, have anything to do with the cogging.  His mags are set up for a very tight gearing. And each wheel carries a lot of weight, including the mags.

But I do know from my experiments that all 3 of his cog wheels add up to 1 larger flywheel.
I sorta see the flywheel as an inductor, and an LC circuit as a pendulum, or just an off centered flywheel.  Like the inductor is, in theory, a perfect electronic flywheel, and a cap sets it off balance.  How much do we need to make the wheel(inductor) off balance to become the longest lasting electronic pendulum possible?



Im working on some things this afternoon. Will be back on later..

Mags

[gyulasun]

Hey Gyula
I have read that any cap and coil can have resonant frequencies.  But, when the cap and inductor are of equal energy storing capabilities, the resonance is best.  Maybe I am not saying it right.  Im still searching for that statement.
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Yes, any cap or coil combination has got a resonant frequency somewhere, the Thomson formula give the frequency.
Or you mean a cap or coil has an equivalent circuit with a series inductance in case of a cap and a distributed parallel cap for a coil? Yes this is so and in both cases the loss resistances are also considered. This means that a cap has a series resonant frequency in itself, without adding any coil to it, and a coil has a parallel resonant frequency in itself, without adding any cap to it. Is this what you think of combining?

Considering the equal energy storing capability: if you mean the stored energies are equal in them, then you can equate the two formulas for the stored energy in case of an L and a C like this:
E=L*I^2/2   and E=C*V^2/2   so L*I^2/2=C*V^2/2  from this it comes that  L/C=V^2/I^2  so square root(L/C)=V/I and V/I=Z and this Z is either the capacitive or inductive reactance in Ohm at resonance.
Will further ponder on this, what advantage this might give if any...

rgds,  Gyula

[Magluvin]

Yes Gyula  Maybe it is that hey have the same resonance, but I remember the equal energy thing.
Like a huge coil and a tiny pico cap may not be as good as a larger cap, And the same vice versa, a huge cap and a tiny inductor.  where is the middle?   If we know the middle, we can scale our parts equally in either direction for what ever purpose..   Like a pendulum and flywheel,  the pen is just a coil with a cap.  The total weight of the offset flywheel is the inductor and the cap is how much offset there is. Think about the many combination's that would give different results?


Today I am messing with a larger wire/few turns coil. Just to see what I can see. 

I was checking out Core's project.  He says it gives him headaches pretty quick, and goes away as quick as they come when he shuts it off.   I would like to stay away from such projects. Hopefully this is not one of them.  =]

Be back in a bit.

Mags