133 Liters HHO per minute ?

[ramset]

This seems like a forgotten tech ,brought back to life [According to Samuel Friedman]

Stefan are you discussing this on your German Forum?

Chet

[The Eskimo Quinn]

the problem to me appears simple, it is mechanical, bear with me for a moment, this should be used in a petrol engine or gas car for easiest use, the problem is not production, forget for a momemt what typew of device you are using.

We all know that even really crap devices such as this do actually produce hydrogen as brown gas, the error in almosyt every car installation is to think for one second your car has a brain, it doesn't it has no clue what you are doing, i could be pumping NOS into your diesel and it will still use roughly the same amount of fuel. The problem is in restricting the regular fuel flow to allow the replacement fuel to burn instead, NOS or nitros injection simply adds power it "does not stop the current use of fuel" unsless the car is specifically setup to run replacement fuel.

Most cars have various sytems of fuel intake, a vacuum system will certainly not stop pulling the required fuel level. For instance when you are driving along and your floor the accelerator it does not flood the motor, most speed is built up momentum from constant input of power, not an instant burst of power, only a greater expolsion does this such as NOS.

if you have any fluid pump or flow from any device, the addition of an extra fluid after the fule leaves the pump, be it mecahnical or electronic injection does not and in all common sense cannot alter the fuel flow, diesl has a reasonable water content (especially bio diesal which we really want this to work with) under compression which is how diesel explodes my money is that the reason you don't get extra power is molecular bonding of the molecules back to water "not in total" but sufficent to dampen any gain such as the boost effect you get from NOS, but the very basics of lowering fuel consumption cannot work after the fuel pump, why would it? The pump electric or otherwise has no idea what you have done, so it keeps on doing what it was built to do, this is why your fuel consumption does not lower. But hey I could be wrong, perhaps fuel pumps have AI i was unaware of, " gee that looks like an extra fuel line going in down there perhaps I should pump less fuel" Just looking at the basic mechanics of the engine, and i do not see any computer input to the car which simultaneously controls the fuel injection or vacum.

would be nice if it worked.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

the problem to me appears simple, it is mechanical, bear with me for a moment, this should be used in a petrol engine or gas car for easiest use, the problem is not production, forget for a moment what type of device you are using.

We all know that even really crap devices such as this do actually produce hydrogen as brown gas, the error in almost every car installation is to think for one second your car has a brain, it doesn't it has no clue what you are doing, i could be pumping NOS into your diesel and it will still use roughly the same amount of fuel. The problem is in restricting the regular fuel flow to allow the replacement fuel to burn instead, NOS or nitro injection simply adds power it "does not stop the current use of fuel" unless the car is specifically setup to run replacement fuel.

Most cars have various systems of fuel intake, a vacuum system will certainly not stop pulling the required fuel level. For instance when you are driving along and your floor the accelerator it does not flood the motor, most speed is built up momentum from constant input of power, not an instant burst of power, only a greater explosion does this such as NOS.

if you have any fluid pump or flow from any device, the addition of an extra fluid after the fuel leaves the pump, be it mechanical or electronic injection does not and in all common sense cannot alter the fuel flow, diesel has a reasonable water content (especially bio diesel which we really want this to work with) under compression which is how diesel explodes my money is that the reason you don't get extra power is molecular bonding of the molecules back to water "not in total" but sufficient to dampen any gain such as the boost effect you get from NOS, but the very basics of lowering fuel consumption cannot work after the fuel pump, why would it? The pump electric or otherwise has no idea what you have done, so it keeps on doing what it was built to do, this is why your fuel consumption does not lower. But hey I could be wrong, perhaps fuel pumps have AI i was unaware of, " gee that looks like an extra fuel line going in down there perhaps I should pump less fuel" Just looking at the basic mechanics of the engine, and i do not see any computer input to the car which simultaneously controls the fuel injection or vacuum.

would be nice if it worked.

[ramset]

Archer
Didn't know you were fluent in HHO,I should have known better.This tech interests me because the high production rates[alleged 133LPM] should run a home heating system ,utilizing the anomaly of the flame in contact with certain metals producing AMAZING heat

Chet

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Archer
Didn't know you were fluent in HHO,I should have known better.This tech interests me because the high production rates[alleged 133LPM] should run a home heating system ,utilizing the anomaly of the flame in contact with certain metals producing AMAZING heat

Chet

As noted previously the steam becomes an issue with heat, personally i have always favored heavy aluminium tanks for the production area to sink the heat.

There was aguy that conatcted me last year, who really did have the best i have seen to date, i meant to give him a hand and do some duplicate tests etc, but you saw what happened to my time last year, Ill try and find who it was, this guy was using around 20 amps from memory and 12 volt system if i recall, the tank looked like a spa bath with a super turbo it was producing that much gas. I'll get back to you.

an no not an expert in ths field by any stretch, its just that i was the first person 25 years ago to build an all gas vehicle without LPG or natural gas, and had a lot of the same problems. because the car was originally petrol and eventually removed it altogether nad ran it without any petro chemical input, just a type of methane, long before the use of it in a vehicle.