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Overunity Machines Forum



Knitel's InfinityPump

Started by wizkycho, February 16, 2009, 07:55:05 AM

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wizkycho

Hi all !

green - moveable part (MP)
1 condition : (weight of water)>MP(weight)>(weight of air)

Remmeber MP doesn't have to do action all the way to the top - that way weight of water (allready in upper part of cilinder) is doing pump action even if MP is very low weight.

what do you think !? COP=infinity
free water pump, free electricity - electrolysis, energy independancy ...can even be build underground (not to waste space), Sahara as fertile land possible...
works at night...

take it to production....I give it free

Wiz
Knitel Igor

this is so simple that it just can't work!?! can it ?

QuestionProblem: ...weight is pushing down water
A: weight is only sucking water up... I allow in this setup that air ,(while V2 is open), is entering through V2 at a same time as water comes out.
     (I have not animated air bubbles entering through V2)

P: Only problem that I see in it is, that the air will not lift the weight up. I think it will only move up through V3
A: air can not lift moveable part (MP) water can. MP has lower overall density (pe. stirfoam in metal box - like ship, tanker...) then water. if MP is in tank of water it gets boyancy force   and since there is no preassure from above (V3 is open - no preasure) water can lift the MP .Oil tanker can not float in air - but floats on water it is overall lighter than ammount water it replaced by its space. on the other hand tanker in air weights thousends of tons. MP is stirfoam filled "tanker". Of course when V3 is opened all the remaining air (if there is any) will escape through V3 to the upper part of cilinder.

P: if so then air after few cycles replace all the water needed for boynacy (lift up of MP)
A: then MP should be allowed to completely submerge to bottom and put all the air out before V2 closes.(cilinder tank in this case has flat bottom - not like in anim)

QP:...output water pipe should be connected with input water pipe for better operation...
A: if so than air can not enter through V2 (while opened) - if air is entering V2 then weight of MP is 100% cleared to fall down, If air is not entering boyncy may occur before it is nedded
and MP could stop. MP goes down only in air - and goes up only submerged in water (and no pressure from above - V3 opened).

Hugo Chavez


wizkycho

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 16, 2009, 08:07:01 AM
I totally don't get it.

what part ?
filling cillinder with water or MP going up ?

wiz

Koen1

I think it's an interesting idea.

The animated pic shows very clearly how this is supposed to work,
I really don't see what there is "not to get" about this.

Not sure if it really will work, but the idea is clear and quite nice, I think.
Water fills tank, weight floats up, weight is allowed to drop down while
pushing water out the bottom and sucking fresh water in at the top,
cycle repeats... 

Thanks for posting Knitel :)

Hugo Chavez

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 16, 2009, 08:07:01 AM
I totally don't get it.
I've been thinking about a similar idea, I think, where the falling weight pumps air into a bottom compartment that releases to the weight/compartment which takes it up to the top releasing the air to fall again.  More to the whole idea but that part is similar to this, i think.  How is the air entering your system? where is it going out?  Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong or something.