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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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h20power

In this video, by OutLawStc, you can see voltage taking over while amps are being restricted. Now OutLawStc doesn't understand what is taking place with his reaction so I will let everyone know what they are seeing and relate it to patent 4798661.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VziZ33MA7OM

In this graph Meyer shows the relationship between added resistance and what he calls the, "Breakdown Point." The added resistance is shown in other drawing as 60n and goes in between the negative electrode and the ground. The higher the resistance the higher the voltage will be needed to reach the breakdown point and the lower the amp leakage current will be.

One thing I'd like to make clear is there is no Dielectric Failure taking place in any of Meyer's work. Those two words are the main reason no one has ever duplicated Meyer's work for they lead to one asking all the wrong questions. How Stanley A. Meyer broke down the water molecules is by stealing electrons which cause the water molecules to no longer satisfy the octet rule and breaks apart into it component atoms, and note Meyer says the gases coming off are ionized in some of his videos, meaning missing electrons. What you are seeing in the video is water beginning to be ionized. It is in this ionized state that electrons can move in the water molecules, some get kicked out just the same as someone making ozone. The water molecule can remain the water molecule with only one electron kicked out, with the loss of two or more electrons the water molecules become unstable and breaks down into it's component atoms hydrogen and oxygen. This is a passive process much the same as the way a plant breaks down the water molecules, though plants make good use of light energy to push the electrons out to a higher orbit thus making it easier to pull the electrons away from the water molecules for energy is always conserved and the energies all add up to aid the plants to live and give us life in return.

This is how Stanley A. Meyer broken down molecules by stealing electrons from them by way of ionization. The electron extraction circuit is very much needed to take these freed electrons out of the system so they don't restabilize the molecules and so the water bath, in the WFC, doesn't get saturated with electrons slowing down the reaction over time. That is what you are seeing happen in the video, water molecules starting to be broken down by losing too many electrons. In this reaction if you increase the 60n resistance you can cut down the amp use to zero or to a very minimal value. You can also decrease the gap distance between the electrodes for amp leakage means dielectric breakdown which is something Meyer tried very hard to stop from taking place. So now you see why so many failed to replicate Meyer's work for they where all trying to do what Meyer was trying not to do. Everyone say, "Thank you Peter Lindemann."  For that wrong prediction of Meyer's work sent everyone on 180 degrees in the wrong direction from where they wanted to be. Aaron's aid is also false as conditioning the tubes makes it easier to have amp leakage which is also going 180 degrees in the wrong direction from where one wishes to go. In my opinion this was a deliberate act to keep people from solving Stanley A. Meyer technologies. My reasoning is based on how Aaron would always try and steer what I was uncovering in the wrong direction and since Lindemann is his mentor I can see where all the misdirection was coming from. The "Nitrogen Theory" is totally dead and it is the main reason for my being booted from the EF, as I was getting too close to the truth. Now everyone can see how Stanley A. Meyer technologies really works in breaking down molecules into their component atoms and the high energy yields when products are formed from atoms missing electrons.

And note doing the reverse, IE, stealing the electrons from the atoms prior to placing them in a situation where they have to react to form molecules results in the slowing down the reaction and releases a great amount of energy in the process of creating the missing electrons to satisfy the octet rule, the conservation of mass wins . This also obeys the conservation of energy in that what energy was put into the taking of the electrons is given back when products are formed. I go over that on the explanation page. http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=174



May the truth set you free!



h2opower

h20power

Hi Everyone,
Now this video goes to show what I am talking about when I say there is no dielectric failure taking place in Meyer's work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=algECMeQFrE&feature=related
Meyer worked very hard to prevent the dielectric breakdown of the water molecules as his goal is to ionize the water molecules so that electrons could be ejected from the water molecules. This is the Octet Rule that Meyer was dealing with as until his time no one had ever ask, "What happens if a molecule starts to lose electrons and can no longer satisfy the Octet Rule?" The answer is the molecules will breakdown into their component elements. So as you can see what Meyer had discovered has the full backing of modern science, it's just no one had ever ask this question before, let alone use it to break down molecules.

If you don't know what the Octet Rule is here is a video that will aid your knowledge in understanding just what it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b56I8U24xU

This is as far as water can ionized and remain stable molecules: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yM-rLTOQhw ionizing the water molecules beyond this point results in the breakdown of the water molecules into their component atoms. The energy being added to the system in Meyer's work is the ionization energy coming from the electricity being added to the system and that pushes the reaction to the right it keeps pushing it to the right until electrons start to get ejected from the [H3O]+ and that sets up and equilibrium unbalance that is countered by the [OH]- giving up it's hydrogen to maintain a equilibrium state. So the result of ionization is the [H3O]+ breaks down by losing it's electron and the [OH]- dumps the hydrogen atom to maintain balance, four hydrogen gas atoms and two oxygen gas atoms are released in this process.

Now this is a new theory that has yet to be proved but in looking at what takes place experimentally it seems possible. [H4O]+2 would be a second level of ionization and [OH]- + [H3O]+ a first level ionization. For I am not the only one that has notice this, the bubble evolution is much larger than normal electrolysis, seen in Ravi's replication, Outlawsct, and even Dr. Dingle makes note of it in one of his videos saying the bigger bubbles are hydrogen. Since we are adding in energy to the system this makes sense for you can think of it as a last stand for the water molecules to try and stay together. One could argue for example for a H[H2O]4(+) or even H[H2O]6(+) based upon how lithium and sodium hydrates. Since this is new science the one who figures this one out will get to be in the history books, and their theories will be taught in the class rooms of the future ;).

All of my work on Meyer technologies is science based and everything Meyer did does obey and follow modern scientific principles. I wanted all of you to know you don't have to take my word for it as it is all backed by modern science, one just has to ask the right questions. My work shows the science behind the patents.

Enjoy!

h2opower

Doug1

So a electron vacuum sort of,would work?

h20power

Quote from: Doug1 on February 21, 2011, 08:11:27 AM
So a electron vacuum sort of,would work?

Yes, as all energy is added up and vacuum energy would be viewed as, "Gravitational" energy from the perspective of the water molecules. Remember Meyer added in "Light" energy with the LEDs to lower the electrical energy needed to remove the electrons as all these different forms of energy add up and work together. This follows the conservation of energy as all energies added to the mix are added up as one working towards breaking down the water molecules into their component elements as they lower the individual energies requirements to get the job done than if it where working alone to do the same thing.

h2opower

guruji

Hi H20power so what can one do to increase electrolysis in a cell? A guy said to put an oscillator near the cell. I am using tha lawton circuit now but if you have other ideas I would like to hear.
Thanks