Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[jibbguy]

@Dankie

Perhaps those who make ad hominem and demeaning comments of no practical use at all to the subject, should be banned instead.

And such a "Dankie Forum" as you suggest, would be a rather bleak and uninteresting place to visit, i imagine

The problem would then be that the "smart" people who determine "what is right" would need to be consulted for their personal opinions before anything ever gets posted, Hehehe... Imagine all the PM's you would get!.. or not. 

And see, you could have easily gotten around the "Useless post" part by combining your comment into a another, "useful" one:
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@All

Those who are considering replicating free energy devices of any type but who may have been "scared off" by certain "MIB" comments, should visit Panacea BOCAF and consider being Registered as a Open Source Engineer. If there is indeed a danger from suppression and it is not just dire shadows and words on a page trying their best to get you to quit on your own... Which in fact is the only way they CAN succeed in stopping the furthering of knowledge and wider public awareness for these technologies (... Which will then bring the certain end of suppression); then Panacea BOCAF could be a help in insuring any suppression-like "shenanigans" get both publicity and legal attention.... Because these things cannot survive the light of day.

This is important to note, imo... Whatever comes from the current MYLOW investigations.
 

[duff]

Maybe some of you are not aware of this following document so I'm reposting it here with a link to the original:

HJ Magnetic Motor Blueprints Wont Work as Drawn
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/Blueprints/hard_replicate/index.html

AND

Blueprints for Howard Johnson's Permanent Magnetic Motor:
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/Blueprints/index.html



               HJ Magnetic Motor Blueprints Wont Work as Drawn

     Hector D Perez Torres Claims to have replicated the device but says
      that it did not work very long because the magnet strength decayed
        rapidly.  Says device is difficult and expensive to build, and
       buying the special design magnets will put you on a watch list.

Responding to:

     * Howard Johnson's Permanent Magnet Motor Blueprints - Entire
       set of drawings rendered by Coulter F . Irwin now posted for the
       first time on the Internet.



Comment 1

   From: "ARK Research" <[115]arkresearch@hotmail.com>
   Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:32:02 -0000
   Subject: Re: ... HJ blueprints posted...
   I got the original ones since 1980 THE PROBLEM IS BUILDING THE
   half-moon shaped magnets for the ROTOR (Definitely is EASIER to built
   ANY OTHER DEVICE ) as the fields do DEGRADE in time due to the SOFT
   electron problem (3 days) the PLACE (location) were the motor works is
   critical in performance (some relation to VTA).

   Tame other devices before attempting this one.  The wave resonant
   interactions of rotor and stator are the secret but if the magnets are
   not properly BALANCED you just will fail in replication....
   EXTREME DIFFICULT TO REPLICATE .
   Hector


Comment 2

   From: "Advanced Research Knowledge Arkresearch"
   <[116]arkresearch@hotmail.com>
   To: <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
   Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:31 PM
   Subject: Re: Fw: [alfenergy] Digest Number 122

   I did replicate but the 6 cobalt samarium half moons are a
   Subcontractor nightmare made real (Magnet manufacturer ) AND as I told
   the WAVE EFFECT takes a toll on the magnets, Easier to Replicate an
   ECKLIN-Brown ALTERNATOR with the proper funds ..... unit DEGRADES FAST
   and DIES REQUIRING MAGNET RECHARGING ... ( A kinD of NEUTRALIZING FIELD
   FORMS product of ELECTRON DECAY (Vitron) requiring REMOVAL of this
   GREEN GLOW RADIATION from MAGNETS plus unit WORKED when it seems fit ?
   (External FACTOR ? PK Operator Influence ? I just SCRAPED IT ,just kept
   2 of the STATOR magnets (mementos ) and gave the UNIT to the "INVESTOR
   " with the test reports .

   *** was sued by another group that got '0' performance from it, so I
   cannot hide it.  DESIGN is STRONGLY PROBLEMATIC to develop as I later
   found.  *** never completed a working model, As I heard rumor that a
   young man from California did only to have it taken by FBI? How much
   truth?  I don't know. BUT reality is *** NEVER MADE A WORKING MODEL.

   His crude demos stopped after a few minutes, I say it was a miracle we
   got it working for 3 days (no load) then it just died (depleted).
   Similar problem with VTA units.  Even being ac magnet vibration got
   depleted with time ....

   The reason I got into Ferro resonance were LOW remanance or core
   "DEPLETION" becomes an advantage in OU transform...  Common transformer
   lamination and latching "memory" cores became my new toys .... The
   value in ***'s design is the WAVE interaction pattern formed as the
   motor ran at a GIVEN speed RESULTING in a duplicate of VTA effect
   (Ringing) of Barium ceramic 8 magnets unit acting as magnetic "rotary"
   amplitude amplifier ......

   I don't recommend WASTING money only to find bigger problems.  PM
   device is useful (as [117]ALF replication of Magnetogravitic motor);
   but PURE PM stuff brings problems (I have my own design based on
   orbital ballistics but have never taken it from beyond theoretics) more
   than I got NSA in my steps for just ordering the magnets alone ..
   constant annoying calls asking info on the applications and warning on
   the limits of EXPORT to foreign country... so I diverted toward pure
   resonance and OFF the shelve item design .

   Quite safer for anyone.... (try meg with Transverter in BAP URL ) will
   work any higher frequency switching load with out reflecting to source
   .

   best regards, Hector


Comment 3

   From: "Advanced Research Knowledge Arkresearch"
   <[118]arkresearch@hotmail.com>
   To: <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
   Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:03 PM
   Subject: on the plan you have ....

   On revising your copy .....

   ROTOR MAGNET SET CONSISTS of HALF MOON PAIRS (unit is USELESS as this 3
   pair angle do not create wave effect required to work) Spacing and size
   is wrong 1 and even the inventor failed to provide this detail.  I can
   search my files and put this info out but who? will make the moon
   magnets without having the old boys from the club breathing heavy on
   their necks ? and to be depleted in days of operation.

   If you want to make one I can help some but give no warrantee on its
   performance.....

   Hector


Note from Sterling

   The rapid depletion of the magnet would fit a model expected by someone
   anticipating full compliance with known laws of thermodynamics.  In
   other words, the charge put into the magnets when magnetizing them, is
   being used up to create motor rotation, making this essentially a very
   expensive battery.

   Other inventors ([119]e.g.) claim that their permanent magnet designs
   provide continuous rotation/work with no depletion of the magnetic
   strength.

   [120]Sterling
   July 27, 2003


Hector Recommends More Feasible Solutions

   From: "Advanced Research Knowledge Arkresearch"
   <[121]arkresearch@hotmail.com>
   To: <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
   Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:35 AM
   Subject: Re PM motor and alternatives (comments)
   In pure PM motor........"Johnson"
   Space of rotor Magnets are critical, in making a model.
   alternative as to make one consisting of 2 adjustable rotors Each
   having 3 magnets as to permit..
   1: adjustment of separation of magnet pairs ...
   2: adjustment of angle of magnet pairs...
   3: adjustable distance and 'pitch' of magnets....
   As to have ADJUSTABLE HARDWARE parameters to adjust a work-able
   configuration.....

   The other last problem is to work on the self- DEGAUSSING of unit ?
   (Magnet power loss)

   seems a [122]Bedini motor combined with RV technology may be the BEST
   alternative for something that truly works ..

   A 230/460VAC 3PH motor wired for 460V (120v pulsed) equipped with N S
   poles ROTOR as to WORK on ATTRACTION by means of PULSE management may
   be the EASY WAY to MAKE OU motor, as ATTRACTIVE force do not degauss
   rotor magnets, CEMF can be collected by reverse diodes in IGTB or
   transistor SWITCHING ARRAY for a full 3 Phase "modified" sine wave
   operation having the ADVANTAGE OF BEDINI LIKE PM MAGNET OPERATION and
   The Johnson WAVE effect .....

   For GENERATOR the best design is the MAGNETIC DISTRIBUTOR GENERATOR
   CONCEPT made with CARE to avoid shorting the flux path of AC
   magnetics....

   Another 2 working DEVICES can be used combined with PM RV ..

   ALF INTERFERENCE DISK GENERATOR, and [123]METHERNINKA THESTATIKA

   OU is Transformation, IF MAGNETIC FLUX is switched ON and OFF in any
   system with a MINOR FORCE YOU HAVE OU .. the same with static charge
   (THESTATIKA)

   MEG is a sample of that (THE MAGNETOTRANSISTOR ) requiring a PERFECT
   TUNING but with the disadvantage of loosing it at LOADING ....

   SOLUTION: Resonant MEG with TRANSVERTER DIODE PLUG AND CAPACITOR
   DISCHARGE SYSTEM. Pulse length as to PERMIT discharging the ACCUMULATED
   RADIANT ENERGY COMPONENT in a totally NON REFLECTING WAY TO SOURCE.....

   Why Bearden group does not adopt it? (FREE domain)? I don't mind it
   being patented as long it is given FREE and proper credit is given to
   each contributor (there are many)....

   I comment on the alternatives as a more simpler approach, I see a lot
   of wasted effort on far to reach alternate energy sources, while in
   reality simpler cost effective solutions are left untouched ..(.free
   domain)

   I see it to be more a problem of HUMAN UNITY than "Energy" overunity...
   Hector D Perez Torres ARK RESEARCH ...JUL, 27, 2003
   Best regards to all, feel free to repost.....
   Hector

[Michelinho]

Hi duff,

These blueprints and comments are for another magnetic motor Howard Johnson successfully made and that went to the military. They probably used it in their diesel submarines.

The discussion of this thread is the Stonehenge motor which is a different design and concept.

Take care,

Michel

[LightRider]

Nice work.  I like data.  I posted it at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MYLOW:Data

Thanks Sterling,
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from Sterling,

One comment I would make, though, is that some of the variation is a function of data management by YouTube.
Mylow told me that his image file from his camera shows a smooth visual presentation, while the YouTube presentation presents some jolting.  I've seen that with videos I've uploaded before.

from capthook

with the data not perfectly smooth because of youtube compression?

It is more likely that you are both right, regards the possible errors due to video compression.
In general the data remains interesting.
I added to the graphics this note: the data include a margin of error and are based on some estimates. These tests are for fun only and are in no way a rigorous scientific approach.

Thanks

[Grimer]

Yes, it's very obvious to us all that the last video does not show a free running motor.

Is it just me, or has anyone else said anything about the drastic change of magnet placement on the rotor.
His first running video uses a completely different arrangement, and it doesn't appear to change speed for a couple of minutes.

Call me crazy, but something is really 'fishy' about all of this. Why would he go through all this trouble to make such a scam video, when his early video shows the rotor turning smoothly and without winding down?

I think he did the final video intentionally to throw everyone off track and discourage anyone from replicating. And, judging from the lack of his enthusiasm at the end of all this...maybe someone WAS forcing him to quit and show a fake motor.

I agree with your interpretation entirely pinestone. In my view the evidence from the "bed" video alone together with Lightrider's data is quite sufficient to convince me that Mylow is honest a genuine. He has been got at but I'm sure we will see him back somewhere. He doesn't seem a quitter to me. On the contrary.