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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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AquariuZ

Quote from: broli on May 18, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Using the recent aluminum phenomena I think that would have the most effect of it. Look how close the stator magnet is to the spinning disk and vice versa to the rotor magnets on both sides.

Exactly what I was thinking!

Thanks for playing.

8)

capthook

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 18, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
For Watts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu06HpY5v6g

"Can you see it?" : no
"how about now?" : no
oh... THERE it is!
Amazing how invisible the fishing line is with a video of similar quality as Mylows.....

(and amazing how hard it is to pull the blinders off of some believers)

edit: P.S
And WHY is it when shown good evidence it's a hoax - especially when the whole sum of nonsense it taken into account - even MORE evidence of a hoax is required?
The demand is ON THE CLAIMANT to PROVE HIS CLAIMS!!  :-\

TinselKoala

See? Thread and topic isn't dead at all. It's Undead.

I forgot to demonstrate the reversal in that last video for Wattsup. So I'm uploading another one showing that the relatively loose modern not stretchy monofilament will make the wheel dance, if you have the controls.

Mylow apparently just used a battery and that big motor, so he couldn't easily reverse the rotation during a video--probably because he couldn't figure out how to wire a DPDT toggle switch to give him instant polarity reversal.

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmo2poXXmOs

broli

Quote from: AquariuZ on May 18, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Exactly what I was thinking!

Thanks for playing.

8)

Yes the aluminum might mysteriously mess up the magnetism like lumen showed and give rise to an asymmetric push/pull force.

I think it will take another 20 pages untill the momentum of the string theory lowers down and people start to notice the potentially hidden potential  ;D . You're a bit ahead of class Aq, how about solving some extra difficult problems until the rest catches up.
 

ATT

At the risk of jumping in the middle of the Debunker Wars, I'd like to point out something I haven't seen addressed as yet, maybe those of you who are OU experts can provide some clarification (and I'm sure you will...).

Considering the difficulty replicators are having with cogging, here's what Sterling Allen had to say Sunday in his blog:


"First, he glues one bar magnet down. He runs it under the stator to get its feel (I didn't quite understand what is accomplished in this step).

Then he takes the second magnet. He holds it in place next to the first one with his thumb. He then runs them under the stator to feel how much it cogs (cog = resistance). He then moves the magnet one direction just a little bit, then he runs it by the stator again to see if the cog increases or decreases. He keeps doing this until he finds that place where the cog goes away."


OK, let's look at this again. If the differences in magnetic strength that determine rotor magnet spacing are -that- critical, wouldn't it seem to follow that as the magnets lose strength the relative differences in their fields will ultimately lead to a motor that -again- 'cogs', even -if- one is successful in 'balancing' the configuration initially?

The resultant motor would have a very limited 'shelf-life' (well, work-life) if this is the case.

This would seem to relegate even the -successful- replication of this motor to no more than a curiosity since no appreciable amount of work, for any protracted period of time, would result.

It would stop working when the rotor magnets feilds had changed enough to start 'cogging' again.

To attain any degree of dependability from this design, in a real-world sense, one would have to employ software, sensors and position adjusters to continuously maintain the correct 'balance' in spacing to inhibit cogging as the various magnets' field strength diminishes (thus changing) over time, and the magnets would not all change in strength at the same rate.

Indeed, accurate sensing may not even be possible at all given that the fields would be interacting on a 'global' device-scale when in-use, negating the ability to discriminate between any two magnets on a 'discrete' device-scale, as we are instructed to do while positioning them in static-mode.

In all, even if the motor works as advertised and -especially- if the explanations given by the developer are considered to be correct, the usefulness of this particular design-iteration would be negligible - it wouldn't survive in a continuous duty, real-world, application for any reasonable period of time.

Can anyone else here see what I'm getting at? Even if you get it to work, it's doomed to fail, no debunking required.