Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Earl]

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Looks pretty amazing the new selfrunning design.

Well, Mylow really needs to invite now some people to take a look at it,
otherwise there will always be fake statements..

Regards, Stefan.

Harti,

I saw a film about how magicians do some of their illusions.  For example, there was a very large box with light-weight skeleton and paper sides.  It was mounted on chairs.  Volunteers than came up to the box and easily lifted it off the chairs and carefully placed the fragile box on the asphalt.  They then stepped away from the box and a few seconds later a convertible car drove out of this paper box with a nice girl driving it.  Unfortunately, they did not reveal the trick how this illusion was done.

The next trick was a open table and the camera showed all sides, the top, and underneath.  Above the table was a large circular saw.  The magician used the saw to cut a thick piece of wood in half.  Then a lady laid down on the table.  He proceeded to saw through her dress and he cut her in half.  When she got up, you could see the rip in her dress.  The camera showed the table again and nothing unusual.

They then explained how this illusion was done and I must say it was very clever.

Whether watching this on video or even in person in the audience, you would be convinced that the poor woman was cut in half.

What this shows is that you can not trust your eyes.  Anyone who thinks that videos from Mylow or anyone else can prove or disprove something are allowing themselves to be fooled.

Only the physical, hands-on presence of qualified specialists with sufficient time to make valid measurements would be in a position to prove or disprove Mylow's (or Mister XYZ's) claims.

Until this is done, Mylow has shown nothing, done nothing.  There is no way to "go around" the scientific method and remain credible.

His purported discovery must be examined and be reproduced, videos are worth nothing, even passively watching it in Chicago has no value.

If I was a magician, I would fabricate two bearing assemblies.  One I would show on camera to prove that there is no motor or battery inside.  The other one would look identical on the outside, but be totally different on the inside where it would have a small motor and battery.  There are no eyes to see which one I am using.  Even with a visiting Engineer, it only takes a short distraction to exchange the bearing, just shown, with a different one.

Without a thorough examination of this device, everything said here or on Utube is just hot air.  Without the utilization of the scientific method, all discussions are a waste of time.  Until now, I see no inclination of Mylow to follow the scientific method, even though it would have been easy for him.  Of course, he is free to do as he pleases.

The last two videos are sufficient to extract the physical measurements of all element placements and sizes.  If you have $500 to $1000 dollars and some time, by all means try to replicate.  At the most you will be deceived and at the least you will have fun and learn something.  If this would strain your budget and your family suffers, don't try it.

Sterling would have taken a hotel and stayed long enough in Chicago for Mylow to have shown him his motor.  But no, not even Sterling may see the motor or the magnets that Sterling paid for and sent overnight.
Mylow throws in the towel, but he doesn't send the device to Sterling or Harti.  Sending the large, heavy disk along with all the heavy steel magnets from Chicago to Utah is a LOT LESS expensive than sending it to Germany, which will cost serious money and customs duties and taxes on top.  Is Mylow even telling the truth about sending it away?  Looking back at this saga, one has to ask how to spell the word bizarre?

Harti, do you remember the student prank with the electrodes in a glass of water that started to froth and boil strongly at a certain frequency?  You got very excited by that video.  Do you and everyone else understand that videos are worthless?  The student did it because he got frustrated at being unable to achieve OU.  Two OU.com members got frustrated and made fakes.  Remember you found one of them by inspecting your server IP-nr logs?  The other confessed.  So maybe after 30 years of frustration, Mylow also gave into temptation and made very clever fakes ??????  Only the scientific method will tell.

My 2 cents.

Regards, Earl

[joe_1001101]

Harti,

I saw a film about how magicians do some of their illusions.  For example, there was a very large box with light-weight skeleton and paper sides.  It was mounted on chairs.  Volunteers than came up to the box and easily lifted it off the chairs and carefully placed the fragile box on the asphalt.  They then stepped away from the box and a few seconds later a convertible car drove out of this paper box with a nice girl driving it.  Unfortunately, they did not reveal the trick how this illusion was done.

The next trick was a open table and the camera showed all sides, the top, and underneath.  Above the table was a large circular saw.  The magician used the saw to cut a thick piece of wood in half.  Then a lady laid down on the table.  He proceeded to saw through her dress and he cut her in half.  When she got up, you could see the rip in her dress.  The camera showed the table again and nothing unusual.

They then explained how this illusion was done and I must say it was very clever.

Whether watching this on video or even in person in the audience, you would be convinced that the poor woman was cut in half.

What this shows is that you can not trust your eyes.  Anyone who thinks that videos from Mylow or anyone else can prove or disprove something are allowing themselves to be fooled.

Only the physical, hands-on presence of qualified specialists with sufficient time to make valid measurements would be in a position to prove or disprove Mylow's (or Mister XYZ's) claims.

Until this is done, Mylow has shown nothing, done nothing.  There is no way to "go around" the scientific method and remain credible.

His purported discovery must be examined and be reproduced, videos are worth nothing, even passively watching it in Chicago has no value.

If I was a magician, I would fabricate two bearing assemblies.  One I would show on camera to prove that there is no motor or battery inside.  The other one would look identical on the outside, but be totally different on the inside where it would have a small motor and battery.  There are no eyes to see which one I am using.  Even with a visiting Engineer, it only takes a short distraction to exchange the bearing, just shown, with a different one.

Without a thorough examination of this device, everything said here or on Utube is just hot air.  Without the utilization of the scientific method, all discussions are a waste of time.  Until now, I see no inclination of Mylow to follow the scientific method, even though it would have been easy for him.  Of course, he is free to do as he pleases.

The last two videos are sufficient to extract the physical measurements of all element placements and sizes.  If you have $500 to $1000 dollars and some time, by all means try to replicate.  At the most you will be deceived and at the least you will have fun and learn something.  If this would strain your budget and your family suffers, don't try it.

Sterling would have taken a hotel and stayed long enough in Chicago for Mylow to have shown him his motor.  But no, not even Sterling may see the motor or the magnets that Sterling paid for and sent overnight.
Mylow throws in the towel, but he doesn't send the device to Sterling or Harti.  Sending the large, heavy disk along with all the heavy steel magnets from Chicago to Utah is a LOT LESS expensive than sending it to Germany, which will cost serious money and customs duties and taxes on top.  Is Mylow even telling the truth about sending it away?  Looking back at this saga, one has to ask how to spell the word bizarre?

Harti, do you remember the student prank with the electrodes in a glass of water that started to froth and boil strongly at a certain frequency?  You got very excited by that video.  Do you and everyone else understand that videos are worthless?  The student did it because he got frustrated at being unable to achieve OU.  Two OU.com members got frustrated and made fakes.  Remember you found one of them by inspecting your server IP-nr logs?  The other confessed.  So maybe after 30 years of frustration, Mylow also gave into temptation and made very clever fakes   Only the scientific method will tell.

My 2 cents.

Regards, Earl

I agree 110%.  Perfect post.  Only logical thinking.  Now if we all read this a few times over, and all agree (you too Sterling), we will have made major progress! 

"His purported discovery must be examined and be reproduced, videos are worth nothing, even passively watching it in Chicago has no value."

Thanks,
Joe

[Mannix]

There is an influence that may be important to consider.

The lamp !

Aluminum does circulate eddy currents and the lamp does seem to be ever present.

Im not saying that it is fake but there is an influence from the lamp, however small.

It may be unknown to Mylow.
I have asked sterling to check this out but there has been no response, and Im sure he has other things to do.

I would ask other replicators to check out this influence as it may be relevant to the quest, whatever the case.

your power meter in your house uses this method to calculate your usage

I want to be wrong about this.

Lindsay

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Queue,
  I think MyLow said that his U shaped magnets that he got from a DC motor were magnetized through the thickness.  But that he re-magnetized them through the length so that they would work in his setup. One end of the banana is south the other is north.

  Justalabrat

The magnets in dc motors are hard ferrite which is anisotropic material.

I think(pretty sure) that one cannot change the polarization of this kind of magnet - even with a re-magnetizer or even if your name is Mylow.
i could be wrong .. the only way we could know for sure
was if Mylow had taken a compass and shown us the polarity  ..
MUTE - it's too late now.

If those magnets came out of a DC motor they are probably polarized just like all the ones i found today, through the thickness.

i don't have a remagnetizer or i would try it myself for fun as i never have ..
but if someone has one ( what about u TK ? ) maybe try it and let us know... you can get a cheap DC motor at the electronics store for two bucks to get the mags to try it with..

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[plengo]

This last video from Mylow is NOT a fake.

You can clearly see the acceleration in each and every series of magnets. It is just like those SMOTs but instead of creating many block in linear straight line, Mylow did in 2 blocks around a circle clearly creating a infinite straight 2 blocks of magnets.

Simply, genial. I have seem many SMOTS before but none in circular phasion.

The video is not manipulated, neither the sound and the acceleration is totaly inline with the SMOT principles one sees over and over again when using weaker magnets such as those in his video.

Also, he shows his face which is a no-no for any fake replicators out there and I think he did by mistake and did not even knew it until it was on youtube. (speculation of my part).

I think this time Mylow really did it and totally deserves our attention and efforts in replicating.

His other video dissassembling the motor is more proof of his intentions.

I still think a third party eye witness is a must to avoid any logical skepticism.

I really think this video, even though is still possible to fake, is very unlikely to be a fake. The effects very close to reality here is very good for someone to fake it and show his face on top of all the impossible to believe stories.

I am convinced his is the real thing here!

Fausto.