The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[bob.diroto]

Thanks gnostic for the info., much appreciated.

Having had a closer look at one of the earlier Steven Mark's videos where the TPU is not wrapped up. It appears not to have windings all the way around the toroid but rather 4 'blocks' of somethings 90 degrees around the toroid.

My immediate questions are what is the framework of the toroid made of specifically:

a.  What are the upper and lower rings made of
b.  What material is used to connect the upper and lower rings.

Another interesting observation is that the different size TPU's are not scaled proportionally. The difference between the inside and outside radius of each toroid looks to be approximately the same. You might expect the large toroid to have a larger difference between the inside and the outside.
Is this relevant; I don't know.


Material Choices for the rings (as in a. above)

Possible material characteristics are

Conductor/Non-conductor
Attractive to magnetic field/Not attractive to magnetic fields
Insulator/Dielectric Insulator

I'm going to plump for the 'Not attractive to magnetic fields' and 'Conductor'. Firstly because it looks like metal. Secondly non attractive to magnetic fields because I think we want something that doesn't act like a transformer. So I would plump for either aluminium or copper. Probably aluminium because it's easier to machine and cheaper than copper.

What material to connect the upper ring to the lower ring.

This is much more difficult without knowing the purpose of the rings. I'm going to go for insulator because there appears to be as part of the input/feedback electronics two small transformer style toroids, and two large capacitors which suggests feeding into two electrically isolated structures i.e. the two rings.

So an interesting experiment comes to mind, what happens if we apply a different frequency of square wave to each ring ? The two small transformer toroids and capacitors could certainly achieve this. On the top ring the wires for the square wave would be connected 180 degress apart. Similarly on the bottom ring the wires would be 180 degrees apart. I think both rings would be oriented so that the connections to each ring were above each other but obviously electrically isolated from each other.

So you bang a high voltage square wave into the ring and you get a 'kick'. OK what happens to this kick ? What is this 'kick' made of ? Magnetic particles ? Ummm. Let's assume that different frequencies of square wave relative to the circumferance of the rings cause the position of the 'kicks' to move round in a circle around the ring. If we apply the same frequency to the top and bottom rings the kicks to the top and bottom are going to be synchronised. Differ the frequencies slightly between top and bottom (say by 7.5 hertz - shumann resonance ?) and you have relative movement of kicks of 7.5 hertz applied on top of a much higher frequency. Perhaps one of the rings is set to the resonant frequency of ferrite (174.9Khz) whilst the other ring is set 7.5 Hz higher or lower.

This rotational motion of kicks somehow sets up a rotation of magentic particles which by some unknown mechanism couples with the earth's magnetic field and/or the ionesphere causing more particles to be pulled into the 'whirlwind'. All we have to do is direct the particles to the right place. This is where the magnets come in. Standard style output coils are placed between the two rings 90 degrees from the outputs. The coils would have iron cores. Place magnets above the coils ? North up on one coil and south up on the other and you would attract the appropriate magnetic particle ? The particles interact with the coil causing the current ?

Or perhaps the magnets are only necessary to prime the pump. Yes this sounds more likely. The permanent magnets provide a continuous replenishment of magnetic particles which are whirled in a circle by the kicks; followed by coupling with the earth's magnetic field; which causes large amounts of current caused by the particles to appear in the output coils. Remove the magnets and the source of particles drys up hence the wind down effect that is observed in the generated voltage.

Lots of guess work, conjecture and imagination! Perhaps some clues from Mannix/Steven can point us in the right direction to limit the experiments required.

Or perhaps the toroid structure is a total smoke screen...

[tishatang]

Hi gnOstik and bob.diroto and all,

I am glad to see more discussion like this on this topic.
Here are some of my observations:

There is a difference between the early single magnet design and the later two magnet design.  Just as the case of the testika device.  The early testika had only one "windmill"  and the later two.  The single design gives you a half wave rectified pulsating DC.  The two element design gives you a full wave rectified  pulsating DC output.  Notice the testika counter rotates and I feel the Mark device electrodynamically counter rotates.
The colliding force fields gives you much more engergy than just adding the two halves together.

Steven Mark hints at this in point17 of one of his letters.

"17    Rotation of field. . . How many people think about that. If you could have a field that you could think of as a big ball. And you could rotate it in two directions what would the ramifications be?  I hope some of you will appreciate this info, my direct response and the spirit in which it is given.
Sincerely,
SM "

I don't recall this point being discussed here.

Anyway, back to the design of the Mark device as I see it.

Any coil has a natural resonant frequency because of capacitance between the windings.  The higher frequencies are easier to construct because the components are smaller.  I am guessing enough fine windings will give you the resonant frequency of 175K hertz.  If the first coil is wound to have a resonant freq of 178k and the reverse direction coil is wound to have a resonant frequency of 172k hertz, than we have a beat frequency difference of 6k hertz, our design output.  This 6k freqency will need bigger components to have a resonant freq of 6k.  Therefore the upper and lower plates are the capacitor plates of the 6k resonanant coil.
By placing all the coils within the plates, all the coils are closely coupled with 6k hertz.  The voltage will get very high between these plates.  The open air device is just that, using air as the dialectic between the plates.  The higher voltage devices need additional insulation in the middle to keep the two halves from arcing across the coils in between.  As I recall when a demo torus was cut into pieces, there was a cork-like material in the middle.(?)   See the engineering report somewhere in this thread.

The open air design shows a few windings around one of the plates to reduce the voltage for output.
The coils and capacitors in the middle of the big unit, I feel are just a filter network to change the pulsating DC to more pure DC for the inverter shown in the video running the TV.

Hope this helps,

Tishatang

[tishatang]

Hi all,

Links to Henry Moray speeches:

http://www.rexresearch.com/moray3/speech.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/moray3/beyond.htm

Good reading for all.

Tishatang

[bob.diroto]

tishatang,

I for one hopes that Steven Mark via Mannix continues to post. The essnce of the information appears to be correct even if the delivery is somewhat original. Let's just see where this goes! Of course I haven't endured several months of drip-feed and have the advantage? of reading all the posts in one sitting.

I hand't thought of the plates being capacitor plates... interesting. I have though had other thoughts about whether the plates are actually metal. On the open model of the mark device he seems happy to touch the toroid framework when the device is working. Conductors or capacitor plates, I certainly wouldn't be touching anything metal in this device! I'm now thinking along the lines that the framework is made of some sort of insulated material - plastic, acylic, epoxy etc.

"17    Rotation of field. . . How many people think about that. If you could have a field that you could think of as a big ball. And you could rotate it in two directions what would the ramifications be?  I hope some of you will appreciate this info, my direct response and the spirit in which it is given.
Sincerely,
SM "

This statement has intrigued me from the time I first read it on the original posting. The key is understanding what is meant by "rotate in two directions". Is this two directions through the same axis or is it axis at right angles to each other ? Or is it top half rotates one way, the bottom half rotates the other way ?

Given other hints that there is a whirlwind/turbine/jet engine of magnetic field then I guess rotate in two directions will give a vortex if rotated around the same axis ?

Or perhaps if rotated about two different axis you'd get standing waves ? Or pulsating vortexes arranged in a grid around the sphere. Or perhaps you'd get a grid of field lines ?


Baling Wire Reference

When he says that the first device was made of baling wire. Is this a literal term that actual baling wire was used, which to my understanding is not insulated, or is it a generic term, meaning odds-ends of wire he had laying around, which may well have been insulated wire ?


Control Circuit

I think the electronics in the center of the large toroid are the input and feedback control electronics. He specifically mentions in the video turning on one frequency and then turning on the next.


Frequencies

I have a gut feeling that the main frequency will be a multiple of the resonant frequency of ferrite. e.g. 695Khz or something around this frequency. Perhaps the trick is to pulse at two different multiples of the ferrite frequency ?


I think I need to start more experiments on the kicks...

Tishatang, I'll check out those moray links now, cheers.

[bob.diroto]

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm - gets more interesting 2/5/ to 1/2 through the document.

I think the steven Mark device utilises an aspect of this phenomenon documented by Tesla.

"These electrical irritations expanded out of the wire in all directions and filled the room in a mystifying manner. He had never before observed such an effect. He thought that the hot metal vapor might be acting as a "carrier" for the electrical charges. This would explain the strong pressure wave ac?companied by the sensation of electrical shock. He utilized longer wires. When the discharge wire was resistive enough, no explosion could occur.

Wire in place, the dynamo whirred at a slower speed. He threw the switch for a brief instant, and was again caught off guard by the stinging pressure wave! The effect persisted despite the absence of an explosive conductor. Here was a genuine mystery. Hot vapor was not available to "carry" high voltage charges throughout the room. No charge carriers could be cited in this instance to explain the stinging nature of the pressure wave. So what was happening here?

The pressure wave was sharp and strong, like a miniature thunderclap. It felt strangely "electrical" when the dynamo voltage was sufficiently high. In fact, it was uncomfortably penetrating when the dynamo voltage was raised beyond certain thresholds. It became clear that these pressure waves might be electrified. Electrified sound waves. Such a phenomenon would not be unexpected when high voltages were used. Perhaps he was fortunate enough to observe the rare phenomenon for the first time.

He asked questions. How and why did the charge jump out of the line in this strange manner? Here was a phenomenon, which was not described in any of the texts with which he was familiar. And he knew every written thing on electricity. Thinking that he was the victim of some subtle, and possibly deadly short circuit, he rigorously examined the circuit design. Though he searched, he could find no electrical leakages. There were simply no paths for any possible corona effects to find their way back into the switching ter?minal, which he held.

Deciding to better insulate the arrangement in order that all possible line leakages could be eradicated, he again attempted the experiment. The knife switch rapidly closed and opened, he again felt the unpleasant shock just as painfully as before. Right through the glass shield! Now he was perplexed. Desiring total distance from the apparatus, he modified the system once more by making it "automatic".

He could freely walk around the room during the test. He could hold the shield or simply walk without it. A small rotary spark switch was arranged in place of the hand-held knife switch. The rotary switch was arranged to inter?rupt the dynamo current in slow, successive intervals. The system was actu?ated, the motor switch cranked it contacts slowly. Snap ... snap ... snap ... each contact produced the very same room-filling irritation.

This time it was most intense. Tesla could not get away from the shocks, regardless of his distance from the apparatus across his considerably large gallery hall. He scarcely could get near enough to deactivate the rotating switch. From what he was able to painfully observe, thin sparks of a bright blue-white color stood straight out of the line with each electrical contact.

The shock effects were felt far beyond the visible spark terminations. This seemed to indicate that their potential was far greater than the voltage ap?plied to the line. A paradox! The dynamo charge was supplied at a tension of fifteen thousand volts, yet the stinging sparks were characteristics of electro?static discharges exceeding some two hundred fifty thousand volts. Some?how this input current was being transformed into a much higher voltage by an unknown process. No natural explanation could be found. No scientific explanation sufficed. There was simply not enough data on the phenomenon for an answer. And Tesla knew that this was no ordinary phenomenon. Somewhere in the heart of this activity was a deep natural secret. Secrets of this kind always opened humanity into new revolutions.......


.......Copper cylinders produced remarkable volumes of white discharges. The discharges from certain sized cylinders were actually larger than those being applied. This inferred that an energy transformation effect was taking place within the cylinder. This reminded him of his initial observation with the shock-excited wires. Those which did not explode gave forth far greater volt?ages than were initially used. He had never understood why this was occur?ring. Here was another instance in which applied energy was seemingly mag?nified by a conductor. Why was this happening?

The key to understanding this bizarre phenomenon might be found here, he thought. He observed the discharges from copper cylinders of various diameters. Each became edged with white brush discharges when held near or actually placed within the conductive copper strap of the impulser. The discharge effect was most pronounced when cylinders were placed within the periphery of the copper strap.

Tesla noticed that white corona sheaths were actually covering the outer cylinder wall at times. These would appear, build in strength, and disappear on sudden discharge with a surprising length. The sheathing action was re?petitive when the cylinder had a critically small volume. Very small cylinders behaved like rods, where discharges only appeared at their edges. The stabil?ity of these strange sheath discharges varied with cylinder diameter and length. Tesla noticed that not every cylinder performed well near the impulser. Only cylinders of specific volume produced stable and continuous white elec?trical sheaths. If the cylinders were too small, then the sheaths were intermit?tent and unstable. There was an obvious connection between the supplied impulse train and the cylinder volume. But what was it?

Tesla surveyed the entire range of his recent discoveries. Impulses produced a radiant electrical effect. Radiant electricity was mysteriously flow?ing through space. As it flowed, it focused over metal conductors as a white fluidic corona. When the shape and volume of the metal conductors were just right, the energy appeared as a stable white corona of far greater voltage than the impulse generator supplied. More questions. More discoveries. "

Now I'm not saying this is exactly what we are looking at but I think the Steven Mark device's mode of operating is more in line with this than traditional electro-magnetics.