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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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SMC

Gotta agree with Rich...Sure I got the scope, meters, power supplies, wire, components and the extreme desire to replicate the TPU. But it sure would be nice to have a solid starting point.....even if all it did was power a damn LED. But NOOOOOOO...we get to play the guessing game for MONTHS OR YEARS and still get nowhere. We all have families and jobs to deal with too! It's almost to the Now or Never scenario...cause if things go to s#it like I'm assuming they will....good luck getting the needed components.

Steven Marks- if your listening and aren't blowing smoke up our ass- WE NEED SOME HINTS HERE.

gn0stik

Quote from: tao on June 20, 2006, 11:41:06 PM
Steven didn't have to give anyone ANYTHING.

He gave us MORE than enough background on his thought processes leading up to his invention.

We should be so lucky.

Now the time is nearing and we are closing in on the exact way his devices work, OF OUR OWN ACCORD and via LISTENING TO STEVEN'S WORDS.

If this doesn't make sense, re-read EVERYTHING that Steven wrote!

I agree.

Quote from: oouthere on June 20, 2006, 08:48:52 PM
I work with electronic techs every day and have a 4" thick binder of patents and claimed free energy devices plus the SM video that I show fairly regular.  Ridicule??? I could care less.  But I don't like having to reinvent the wheel.  And yes I have been experiementing on his device before he ever starting giving notes.  I've built two different versions but nothing worked.  My energy is currently directed at the Kromrey generator.

Concerning being taught how it works.....that's BS.  Did your teacher throw a box of numbers at you and say figure it out?  That's teaching???

Rich

So let me get this straight. You did experiments on the TPU before we had any tips, and now that we have something to go on you are unwilling?

When you were working on the TPU before, why didn't you opt to work on something that had far more information available on it? We've uncovered a great deal here, and now is not the time to quit over sour grapes.

tishatang

Hi all,
Well, I studied electronics in 1956.  Then I discovered cars.  After 50 years of working on cars, my body said no more.  Since discovering this site, I have acquired a scope, some meters, some wire, and background of reading on the net.  I hope my hand is steady enough to solder?

I have been dealing with other personal issues, but hope soon to learn how to use the scope and do some experiments.

Tishatang

bob.diroto

Some observations:

Ignition coil to provide high voltage pulses

I wanted a source of high voltage pulses to try out various 'kick units. I thought an ignition coil would do the job. The problem with an ignition coil is you need to apply power to the primary for long enough to build up the magnetic field in the primary so that on cutting power to the primary the field quickly collapses and induces a high voltage into the secondary. This works well up to around 1000Hz (which is to be expected 4 cylinders @ 7000rpm is less than a 1kHz). I can get 1 inch sparks without a problem. With higher frequency pulse rate, it looks like the magnetic field of the primary is not fully expanded and therefore on removing the power the voltage in the secondary is vastly reduce and not sufficient for sparking.

I used this circuit here, a kit which I had knocking around the garage.
http://www.vellemanusa.com/downloads/0/illustrated/illustrated_assembly_manual_k2543.pdf
Instead of points a function generator was used.

I'm using a spark lead and spark plug, with the spark plug acting as the first spark gap, I then run a wire from the earth of the spark plug which was going to feed my kick units. However, there is significant ringing (observed on scope) on this wire from the spark plug which has time to fully decay before another pulse arrives.

I'm assuming I need to a get the pulse rate higher so another pulse appears before this pulse has fully decayed ? Your thoughts on this please.

I noticed that on pulling a short spark, the spark was coloured the traditional blue/violet, but on making the spark longer, by moving the wire further from the strike point, at a certain point the spark changed to pure white with no blue/violet overtones whatsoever. There was a distinct crossover. A bit further from this point and the spark was extinguished.

For those that aren't aware, sparks contain a high ultraviolet component, so keep viewing to a minimum and use good quality sunglasses.

Mannix, you'll probably know the answer to this one. If the primary is being pulsed but the spark gap is too wide to cause a spark, what actually happens to the energy that was induced into the secondary ?

1. Does it just 'ring' away with the natural impedance and capacitance of the wire ?
2. Converts to heat ?
3. Induces back into the primary ?

A question: Why do spark plug leads have a high resistance ?
Wouldn't this cause a massive voltage drop as soon as current flows ?

Has anyone tried creating an air coil + capacitor that is resonant to 174.9Khz, and then placed in a magnetic field from a permanent magnet ? I've not tried this yet.

Anyone got a circuit based on capacitors for generating high voltage pulses up to 200Khz ?

jake

QuoteA question: Why do spark plug leads have a high resistance ?
Wouldn't this cause a massive voltage drop as soon as current flows ?

The resistance of the wire is still much lower than the resistance of the gap where the spark occurs, and there is relatively little current flow to produce the spark.  It is almost "static" electricity.

I don't know for sure why the wires are high resistance.  It might be to limit the current to the spark to keep the coil from discharging any farther than is necessary to create the spark.

I know the capacitor is in the circuit to keep the spark from occurring at the distributor.  The cap limits the dv/dt at the distributor end so the discharge spark occurs at the spark plug.