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Overunity Machines Forum



The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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jacob

Sam,

I don't really understand how your loops are positionned one from another. If your seconth loop is just around the first one, you won't achieve much except regular induction.

Quote from: supersam on September 29, 2006, 12:57:53 PM
...using the same facts as the current producing a magetic field in the first wire as guide can anyone tell me which way it would be best to have the magnetic field in the second loop of wire flowin?  i really don't know.  my theory is that it would be best to have the current of the second wire also running counter clockwise, so that the manetic field would be "kicking along" the current in the first wire loop.  but that is just a theory.  other things to ponder are if you have a current running in the second wire loop auond the first wire loop can the magnetic field created by the current induce a current on the first wire loop (collector)?

jacob

@Rich:

Quote from: gn0stik on September 29, 2006, 05:05:21 PM
The basic components of what we are making will be simple, and known quantities, and when we get it together, we will all say "OF COURSE, IT'S SO SIMPLE!", but for now, it's baffling.

Don't know why you say that. I've explained it very simply on page 233.

Quote from: gn0stik on September 29, 2006, 05:05:21 PM
SM claims his device is simple, that it uses the earth's magnetic field, and that it uses kicks of energy in specially wound coils, that it requires sharp on and off pulses of power to create the kicks, and that it's started by a magnet. So, with that description, what existing technologies can we explore that exhibit some or all of those properties?

Answer: the deflection yoke.

Regards,

Jacob

jacob

Hi GiantKiller,

Quote from: giantkiller on September 29, 2006, 05:26:23 PM
That is the 'Kick', and the harmonic buzzing and the gyroscope leveling effect. Plus the fact that the first lines of flux generated break apart from the center and envelope the unit spherically, more potential built up. Again, on the trailing edge these outer flux lines break, unleashing more power, back to enveloping the toroid and decease through the windings. A sine wave can't produce this effect as great.
It slowly relaxes and looks like the generated freqency. But again, the square wave has infinitely more frequencies and harmonics. All this work is very dependent on how the unit impresses force and vibration to create interference against the earth's magnetic field. Tesla talked about this. 8)

You are right: the square wave has infinitely more frequencies and harmonics. And this is why the square wave is able to produce the kicks. However it requires circuitry to generate, and thus, power. And SM device has no battery, remember? But if we are already tuned to the frequency responsible for the kicks, the square wave is not needed.

Regards,

Jacob

jacob

Hi Dave,

Quote from: ctglabs on September 30, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
I had the thought to try two coils at once in varying positions to each other and the earths field.

Very clever, relevant and useful! Congratulation!

Quote from: ctglabs on September 30, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
The interesting thing is that the coils both get the same signals as the first experiments, BUT when the two coils are placed a certain distance from each other, both of their signals jump from 10mV PP signal to 40mV PP each.

What kind of distance? Also, have you tried to position them perpendicularly?

Quote from: ctglabs on September 30, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
Obviously this is very small voltages which are of no practical use...

This is all the voltage we need to start the process.

Quote from: ctglabs on September 30, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
Note that this works in any orientation with repsect to the earths field and only when the coils are in the right phase.  Turn one coil the other way around and the signal drops, so probably just mutual self inductance...

I don't think so. This behaviour is exactly the same thing that happens when SM turns the TPU upside down: it stops. The reason is that the energy wave that we want to tap into has 3 components: a rotational component in the X-Y plane, and a longitudinal component in the Z plane. Pretty much like a turbine. Since the rotational component is directional, it turns out that trying to tap into it in the other direction yields nothing.

Dave, SM said that the frequencies we need are directly related to the diameter of the device. Have you tried twisting your loops to make them half of their actual size in order to see if you would measure the same frequency?

Regards,

Jacob

dutchy1966

Quote from: ctglabs on September 30, 2006, 09:08:46 AM
So from and what Bedini says about it all being about fast rise times, the coil is only responding to the fast rise signal, the rest of the resonance signal is normal if you see what I mean?  We should just focus on the start of the signal, its purley the fast rise pulse that couples, the rest can be ignored...

Hi Dave and everyone,

You might be right there. Is it possible for you to try the same again with a very low duty cycle squarewave (few percent, the lower the better). I would like to see if you get the same level spike at the beginning and if the ringing wears off much quicker. If that's the case then that might be the way to generate the kicks.
Also, I was thinking of the kicks and what exactly they should be. Seeing as the kicks are the beginning of the whole proces they can't be radiant, because for the radiant pulses to be created you need elektricity to begin with, right? The only way as far as i know to start generating energy from "nothing" is through induction. The induction is either caused by the earth magnetic field or the insertion of the magnet. So is it right to conclude that first induction is needed and with that the radiant pulse are created which in turn are picked up by the collectors?
Does this reasoning make sense to anyone?

regards dutchy