Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@i_ron,

I strongly disagree. The simulation posts are the most important in this thread. This is the only tangible stuff we have on this matter yet. Sims help to understand and illustrate the concept and understanding the concept is a shortcut to the blind hitting brick walls and hoping that luck will dawn upon you.

What is needed here is more scientific approach rather than just relying on construction skills and part of the scientific approach is analysis using sims, possibly describing it analytically with equations, solving these equations etc. Discoveries sometimes are made by chance but in our case it's not about a discovery but about a concrete engineering solution which by no means should ignore using modern tools of analysis to be achieved. If the modern tools of analysis are ignored we would still be riding in horse carts and building satellites to explore the cosmos would be out of the question. Even the computer you're using, which is mostly an engineering achievement, wouldn't be around if the modern engineering methods of analysis and construction were ignored.

[rlortie]

@i_ron,

I strongly disagree. The simulation posts are the most important in this thread. This is the only tangible stuff we have on this matter yet. Sims help to understand and illustrate the concept and understanding the concept is a shortcut to the blind hitting brick walls and hoping that luck will dawn upon you.

A wee bit in contradiction here aren't we! You disagree with Ron but state that sims help find a shortcut to the blind hitting a brick wall.

In my opinion you got the latter part right!

Just what is your opinion of Dusty and his hands on trial and error approach. I would say that he is way ahead of any simulation with objective results.

Ralph 

[rlortie]

Sorry DP

[Cloxxki]

Thanks Ron!

The rod's length being "under stress" might be a feature by itself. One could make the rod from a male and female member, with the maximum and/or minimum length restricted mechanically, or spring-loaded.
The outer weight(s) would only approximate the velocity of the inner ones during the latter half of the upstroke. (dis)allowing either weights to rotate, or letting them interact with offset rails to gain/produce inertia could all be part of the design. No reason think we'd not reach nice balance though. There might be a "trick" to it.
I'm now on page 58, thinking of driving against the wind. I am surprized that is still considered a novelty. I'll be surprised if someone manages to be faster than the headwind. Surfers, especially on ice skates, reach great multiples of the wind speeds, but then slightly over 90 degree into it.

General remark:
I was a forum moderator before elsewhere. I liked to keep the original post updated with new findings, so one could spare reading multiple (122 here) pages to collect data. And for newbies, similations that require special applications to see, are somewhat tiresome. Oh well, I'll just soldier on reading.

[Omnibus]

A wee bit in contradiction here aren't we! You disagree with Ron but state that sims help find a shortcut to the blind hitting a brick wall.

In my opinion you got the latter part right!

Just what is your opinion of Dusty and his hands on trial and error approach. I would say that he is way ahead of any simulation with objective results.

Ralph

Where's the contradiction? Ron says sims are to be ignored, I state that sims are important and shouldn't be ignored.

As for @Dusty, like I said, he's doing a great job by trying to put this in flesh and blood and all power to him if he succeeds. If he doesn't succeed, however, it won't prove such machines aren't possible. Sims as part of a scientific analysis, however, can be closer to answering this. The situation with the trial and error is like someone trying to make a Patek Philippe in his garage with a hammer and a pair of pliers and when failing to produce quite the same as the Swiss watchmaker to conclude that Patek Philippe's can't be real.