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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Tink

Quote from: AquariuZ on May 18, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
Question: Will you sell the energy yourself?
Initially that was what we had in mind, but this is no longer our goal. We have been advised to sell our systems to the current energy providers instead for the production of "beautiful energy" (electricity) as a substitute for power plants, wind turbines etc.


DAMMIT

I am going to call him again.  Selling is the same in this case as shelving.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR %$$%**!

Edit: sorry here is the link with the newly posted information on Abelings website:
http://mooieenergie.nl/index.php/en/component/content/article/3-gewichtenergiecentrale/9-nieuwsbrief-mei-2009

Sjack, sjack, sjack. You know what´s going to happen with your invention don´t you?

Sjaak had allang al een filmpje op youtube moeten gooien van zijn draaiende machine, al was het alleen maar om de schijn van een hoax te doen kortsluiten.
Jammer dat ie niets werkelijks van zich laat horen.
Hij heeft het ei van Columbus gevonden volgens mij maar hij wil er graag het maximum uitslepen wat hem niet gaat lukken de PTB kennende.
Synergy is the key to free energy.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Tink on May 18, 2009, 06:35:36 PM
Hans, you are right.
Flying machines heavier then air can't fly and the earth is still flat.
If you really think Sjack's machine can't work then tell us why not, follow the rules of science!!!!

This was only Lord Kelvin that said that about flying machines for his own strange motives and was never part of accepted science. Anyone looking at birds knew that heavier than air flying machines can and do exist.

I thought I had explained in simplified scientific terms why Sjack Abelings machine, as disclosed, cannot function. When analysing the forces at play one must look at ALL the forces present, not just some of them as Omnibus does.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

stgpcm

Quote from: i_ron on May 18, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
Absolutely amazing your easy flow of math here! I am in awe.
well, I simplified Sjacks model to the point of absurdity to make the maths easier - all ramps are vertical, and all slots lie along the radii...

I can't do a 45 x 0.5 degree analysis of Sjacks wheel by hand, just working out the positions of each ramp and slot would take forever - which is why I need to make sure the automated calculations are being done correctly

However, it does fulfil what I understand to be Omnibus's "proof" of perpetuum mobile (as do other D shaped wheels) that at all points the centre of mass is to the right of the axle.

I wish he would explain how I have misunderstood his theory, so I can better understand unbalanced wheels.
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Now the next question is... will it continue to accelerate?

What a strange twist of fate if this does turn CCW.

Unfortunately not, at the 3:00 position, for example, there is a strong clockwise torque the right weight having torque 1, the left 0.45

I am 99% certain that no wheel, ramp and slots design will work, even involving momentum and ballistics, but I want to be able to work out what is happening when/if something looks promising


QuoteThank you for taking the time to explain this.

Ron

Thanks for listening, and checking (even if only cursorily) my maths

Tink

Okay Hans,

I want you too know I have an other opinion then yours.
I am not your enemy, just someone opposing your views.
Synergy is the key to free energy.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Tink on May 18, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
Okay Hans,

I want you too know I have an other opinion then yours.
I am not your enemy, just someone opposing your views.

That is fine, a good debate is healthy. If we all had the same ideas there would be no progress.  ;D

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx