Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@ramset,

You posted too soon [should have waited till you got home to test].

I would've posted too soon if what the videos show is a scam, say, the two balls are of different mass. I don't believe that's the case, do you?

Therefore, it is an established fact that the videos demonstrate two balls of the same m turning the same gravitational potential energy into different amounts of kinetic energy.

Now having established that fact it's a completely different story how we would use that fact for the continuous production of that extra kinetic energy.

[Omnibus]

What's really interesting to me is that even under ideal conditions the same quantity of potential energy can be converted into different quantities of kinetic energy. This goes against the "transformation" part of CoE. We already know that the "conservation" part of CoE can be violated, that is, that it is possible to produce "energy out of nothing". However, once available a given amount of energy can be converted only equivalently into other forms of energy. This experiment demonstrates that it isn't so--two balls of the same m turn the same gravitational potential energy into different amounts of kinetic energy.

[mondrasek]

The ball on the longer track moves faster.  But at each horizontal location where it is moving faster the ball on the longer track is LOWER than the ball on the straight, gently sloping track.  So it has dropped further, and that additional change in PE resulted in greater KE and thus more velocity.

But at the end of the tracks, both balls are at the same height again.  How did the ball on the longer track get back to this height?  It had to go back UP at some point(s) along the track.  At each point it was going up it was slowing down.

At the end of the tracks, both balls are going the same velocity, if friction is to be ignored.

[ramset]

Mondrasek

Seems like all the "ups" should cancel all the "downs ",[on the longer steeper course]
and every one should finish at the same time?

Since this is not the case.
That's the Bit the "Bus" is intrigued by[as it could apply to a "wheel"]

Chet

[mondrasek]

Seems like all the "ups" should cancel all the "downs ",[on the longer steeper course]
and every one should finish at the same time?

Not at all Chet.  The average speed on the longer track can be faster, so that ball will reach the end of it's track quicker.

Think of it like this:

1)  Straight track:  Ball smoothly accelerates from 0 to 10 mph from beginning to end of the track.  Average speed is 5 mph.
2)  Long track:  Ball accelerates from 0 to 20 mph (steep drop), then decelerates to 15 mph (slight rise), then accelerates to 20 mph (slight drop), then decelerates to 10 mph (steep rise) at the end.  The overall average speed is greater than 5 mph, right?  And the ball gets to the end faster, but with the same exact final velocity as track #1.

For the speed of the ball on the longer track to ever drop below the 10 mph maximum of the ball on the straight track, the long track would need to have hills that take the ball higher than the straight track.

M.