Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[AB Hammer]

ABHammer, you may have touched on this before. Did you take into consideration perhaps the the Abeling style self runner might need, on top of it's super low friction, a significant kick-start velocity to come into a "zone"? The slower the wheel turns, the more one weight is lifting the other, over the whole height. At high speed, the weight would get itself reset easily, the remaining question mark being it's velocity relative to the rest of the wheel when hitting 12:00. I can see a velocity loss, obviously, but also a time GAIN. If the gain could be used somehow, or the initial 12:00 path be steeper, then I have some hope of syncronization with excess energy. The way I visualize it though, is as a deep high speed flow. Abeling's references to seeking extremely low friction materials would imply not just higher efficiency and durability of his machine, but more likely in my eyes, attaining high rpm's without friction building up faster than the gains. You'll be aware of especially air friction ramping up with speed, offering all kinds of bodies a velocity ceiling. Parashutists, large hail ice balls, cars (100bhp 210kph, 1000bhp 400kph), etc.
My gut is telling me Abeling found, or is searching a way to get high rpm at lower friction than his gains. Such a wheel would be vastly different in working from Bessler's, or simply an inferior version making it rely on high speed rather than inherent over balance.

Greetings Cloxxki

You are correct with Bessler's last 2 wheels IMO, but his first 2 wheels did not need a push, according to reports. So his last two wheels need a push to start reactions. From what I have seen Abeling would need one hell of a push to get reactions. I look at it like the walking up a hill story. You have ten steps in a wheel like ten steps up a small hill. If you go ten steps forward and one step back, it will not run, or you don't make it over the hill. But if you go 11 steps forward and one step back it will run, for you will have exceeded the minimum line to overcome the resistance and it is down hill from there.

Alan   

[Omnibus]

You mean his work on his OU wheel does not allow him to spend time with visitors, correct? Not that he is busy at work, doing something else, and can't do any more OU work?

[AB Hammer]

  Omnibus,
i've talked withAbeling and he told me he hasn't the time any more.
I have challenged Alan to an open build off on youtube. This way, he and I can demonstrate what we know.
I'll still work on this but would be building what i believe is Bessler's wheel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPqtUMk5gA


                                                                                    Jim

Greetings All

Jim has challenged me on youtube. This is not going to happen for why should I give away what I may have already achieved on a foolish challenge. But when I am ready I will post with security.

Alan

[Omnibus]

Now, that's very interesting what you're saying, if I understand you correctly. Abeling has just wetted some people's imagination by splashing an untested idea in the cyberspace, waiting for someone to bring it to fruition while he goes on with his regular job unrelated to OU. Is that underhanded or what? Several people have expressed here and in other boards the concern that some "inventors" might be doing just this -- put forth an idea, wait for someone to actually build the device and then claim priority. If that's the case with Sjack Abeling that's most despicable. Wasn't he supposed to build the first gravity plant and didn't he write he's doing that in conjunction with major companies having the approval of the Dutch government to use the national grid for that purpose? So, all that turns out to be one big fat lie, is that it?

[Omnibus]

@P-Motion,

... as one weight would always be performing work.

Now, this I don't see how would happen. Periodically, that is. Always spontaneously restoring what's been lost. Need to see this in a sim. Can't you use AutoCAD and draw it?