Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

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So where is the overwhelmingly conclusive demonstration?

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Ignore the new clone of @alsetalokin with the new handle @BAR. Don't be gullible. These @Tinsel Koala's of the world are paid (maybe not only monetarily but in various other ways) to act in these "innovative" ways of fighting for the party line, so that the rest of the incredible nasty nonsense going on in science, massively misappropriating billions of dollars in public funds, is well protected. Obviously, the powers that be, elaborately stealing from the public billions of dollars under the pretence of doing "proper science", have found out that in the age of internet that's one way to fight what they perceive as the wide-eyed garage-geniuses who, God knows, may suddenly stand in their way if something not under their control pops up in their basements and home workshops.   

Well said Omnibus. Sjack started off in his garage. There's something in this thread relating to
springs which has clicked with my own research. I'm busy going through all 159 posts in
order to find where I read it. Coming across your post I had to stop and congratulate you. 

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Just thinking out loud: If Abeling is using springs where would he put them?

Where indeed! 

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I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. The people who should get their heads out of their arses are the ones who think they can get away with a patent on an overunity device.

Anyone who is not willing to share an invention which will profoundly further mankind is either too dumb to realise he or she will bathe in riches regardless of patent or money for selling or not because the CREDIT will be linked to them, are too greedy or simply have nothing to show and are looking for attention.

Bessler falls into the second category.

Genius or not, Bessler was a greedy bastard and I do blame him for not disclosing his invention.

Completely agree with you. I'm sure he went to hell.

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(Edited, I added some explanations)

OK, I suck at this:

Weights connected by pull-spring. Neutral when weights are at minimal distance. May not even engage until some distance has been established, offering the outer weight a wider trajectory.
Aweful sketch, lacking a scanner to do a horrible one.

Over unity or not, does this use stored centrifugal forced for vertical acceleration?

Obviously, in such a setup, you'll want the weights to roll even so smoothly over the inner and other faces of the wheel, and it's neighbouring ramps. Perhaps the outer weight must engage both the outer wheel and outer ramp with a smooth running bearing rather than rolling right over it, and during its sling it will not gather rotation proportion to its "air speed". Landing on the underside of the wheel without a bearing in between, would cause rotational friction. The inner weight could be a rolling wheel, its outer force should keep it rolling along neatly, if not at varying velocity. I think its diameter as interacting with wheel and ramp should not be too small, for both contant speed friction and preventing slippage during the velocity changes.

In my sketch, without the guiding sleeves in the wheel for the weight, you'll see an abrubt bend onto the ramp for the inner weight.
Restricting its leftward should nett it (in a frictionlessworld) to travel vertically to just as high as it started. In a real world, it would not make it.
BUT, the outer weight swinging a wider trajectoy, from a partially loading spring, will be decellating as well, but not without lengthening (charging) the spring. When the transitions are done right, the outweight will also in the perfect world now have enough to make it back all the way up. But, the spring is not contracting again, causing the two weights to be attracted to each other faster than their restricted sloped collision trajectories, resulting in additional upward energy to become available to both.

I have not yet figured out whether, if this at would work, we'd want the weights to swap places now. This would not only make the guidance more complicated, but also might created some counter effective vectors.
If I'm not mistaken, the outer weight is as I sketched now always travelling faster than the inner weight.

Now I didn't read the patent too thoroughly, and as said before I have seen zero youtube vids or simulation, but I think that although Abeling did not specify the relationship between the weights, my sketch seems to be in line with his statements.

Please debunk me now, it's 1:57AM.

Thanks,

At last - I've found what I was looking for. A pair of weights connected by a spring.
Well done Cloxxki.


Executive summary:


Two weights following each other around a circular path under Newtonian gravity will extend the spring on the going down side and compress the spring on the going up side.


In effect the spring is the working fluid and you have a compression expansion cycle.


The rest is engineering.