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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Cherryman

So this is what we learnt:

- The weights (and/or largest diameter) gives the best result when used as the contact service with the track
- The rod (And/or smallest diameter) Works best as the deliverer of the weight to a third object.

Edit: And as Mondrasek showed, it works best with the bar and weights able or turning freely from eachother.

Do we need to sort the diameter difference also, and how?

(I'm not a mathematician or fysicks , etc.. , so i try to make this Auquariuz effect visible, explainable by graphics)


AquariuZ

Quote from: mondrasek on April 16, 2009, 09:40:51 AM
Now for the fun post! 

AquariuZ appears to have begun to investigate this idea already:  What if the missing interaction comes from the weights being gyroscopes?  Take the dumbbell shape and let it spin around the axis of the handle.  Why?  Because gyros still have mass and therefore their whole body will react to gravity and fall and cause a wheel to rotate like any other weight.  But when a force is applied to a gyro the equal and opposite reaction force is in a 90 degree direction to the force on a regular object.  So when you push a gyro it does not move in the direction of the force.  It moves to the side.

In the lifting portion of Abeling's (and others) gravity wheel design the wheel, ramps, etc. are pushing on the weights in order to lift them up again.  If those weights were gyros the reaction of the wheel, ramps, etc would not be in the expected direction, but 90 degrees to it.

How to model a gyro in WM2D?  Replace the current round weights with two concentric circles attached at the center with a pin joint.  The smaller inner wheel is the axle/dumbbell handle and should collide with the wheel, ramps, etc.  The bigger, outer circle should be free to spin and not collide with anything (or just some things).

Do gyros react correctly to applied forces in WM2D?  I do not know.  But I can think of some simple tests to try. 

M.

I LOVE IT

Thanks M

AquariuZ

Quote from: Cherryman on April 16, 2009, 01:56:28 PM
I made a simple test setup to see the difference in the spinning effect.


- All circumstances are equal
- Weight and shape dont change
- Dumbell touches underground and object in 4 different ways
- Intresting results

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8oAN5cKHu8&feature=channel_page

Thanks for calling it the Aquariuz effect  8)

This is the dawning of a new age

Please mention me in your physics Nobel Prize acceptance speech  next year

:)

AquariuZ

Quote from: Cherryman on April 16, 2009, 03:28:52 PM
Nice!  Intresting differences.

It is simple: the more spin, the more kinetic energy is passed on to the barrier, so when spin is created in the Abeling setup BY GRAVITY and centrifugal forces in a sufficient way the dumbbells WILL interact with the wheel upon impact.

The gyroscopical effect is so very interesting and opens a whole new can of.... possibilities

AquariuZ

If all goes well I can produce my first real world test results with dumbbells and a ramp this weekend