MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

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@wattsup

All these designs so far have enough B field to lift an M1A1.  We're not trying to lift tanks, just spin a wheel like HJ did.  If we believe Mylow's latest reports, the motor worked up  to the point the rotor magnets wouldn't even attract iron filings.  This says that B fields are not doing the work - it's something else. 

The "else" are the short range assymetrical vortical spin fields that underlie, are hidden by and are masked by the powerful and symmetrical B fields that DO NO WORK.  This is why HJ used heavy permeability plates (steel or iron of some sort) to contain the B fields.  Then he used tall channel magnets to separate the N and S poles so the vortical spin fields surrounding each pole are not fighting each other, then used only the N pole generated spin fields to power the device.

If you believe HJ (and he has a WORKING and PATENTED pmm), the short range vortical and assymetric spin fields are a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MAGNETIC REACTION than the normal long range and symmetrical push pull B fields we are all familiar with.

So ideally we need taller channel magnets from those that Mylow used.  HJ's device was reportedly (by Al Witherspoon) to be about 24 inches in dia so by roughly scaling the picture are probably 6" tall.  Then he used thick steel or iron permeability plates on the back side of the channel magnets (and maybe even some between - hard to tell from the pic) to suck up the B fields.

In Mylows Ruler Measurement video, he displayed two of the rotor channel magnets on a piece of
paper within 3/4" of each other with no attraction/reaction whatsoever.  This shows that his magnets
were extremely weak to start with and now they are totally dead.  So anything more than a 1 lb pull
is probably way too much.  Even a 1 lb pull magnet will probably require permeability plates.

Sticky spots=B fields=non working motor. 

[infringer]

Let me summarize what he told us:

1- A magnet is composed of 2 poles, a South and a North pole.
2- Each pole emits 2 vortexes. A "South Pole"* vortex and a "North Pole"* vortex.
3- Each vortex of a common pole have a different strength.
4- The return path of magnetic vortexes in a magnet is situated roughly at the center of the magnet, not at the opposite end.
5- Given the "North" magnetic vortex a value of 100, he found that at the North pole of the magnet, there is a North* magnetic vortex with a value of 100 and a South* magnetic vortex with a value of 80, so we have a effective and shown North predominance.
6- Given the "North" magnetic vortex a value of 100, he found that at the South pole of the magnet, there is a North* magnetic vortex with a value of 100 and a South* magnetic vortex with a value of 120, so we have an effective and shown South predominance.

That is basically what Howard Johnson and another fellow, which I don't recall the name, measured with precision using state of the art instrumentation in I think 1957. Since then, with the blessing of the Academics and Regulatory brains, that knowledge has been buried and mostly forbidden in its use for academic teaching. That was 52 years ago and it is still under a load of denial.


That is all for now as I have to go rest my back.

Read and reread Howard Johnson's book “The Secret World of Magnets” until you understand this then start applying his knowledge to your Permanent Magnet Work.

Part Two will be on how to manipulate those vortexes to your advantage and get a greater chance of succeeding in your build of a Permanent Magnetic Motor. It can also be used to amplify the potential of anything involving magnets.

Take care all,

Michel


* Those vortexes are composed of CW spin particles and CCW spin particles. Which is which is not of much value here, those who want to get deeper in the subject should read “The Secret World of Magnets”.

Has anyone ever tried to shield the center of a bar magnet all the way around it?

Or could this be why the center portion is cut out to make the arch of the magnetic flux abnormal?

Would not having the magnets themselves symmetrical within there flux patter allow for a symmetrical placement on the rotor?

Just thinking out loud here at questions I ask myself...

[X00013]

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[robbie47]

please have a look here :

http://www.nanomagnetics.us/   and
see what this screen-material can do ( first link on the right side : Magnetic Singularity using the Flux Resonatorâ,,¢) :
http://sirzerp.blip.tv/#1618702

Kator01

Thanks Kator. Amazing stuff.  I wonder how linear this detection material is.

[Michelinho]

Hi Infringer,

Has anyone ever tried to shield the center of a bar magnet all the way around it?

Or could this be why the center portion is cut out to make the arch of the magnetic flux abnormal?

Would not having the magnets themselves symmetrical within there flux patter allow for a symmetrical placement on the rotor?

Just thinking out loud here at questions I ask myself...

A magnet as you probably found out is a self healing piece of hardware, if you could block the center completely without any way for it to go around, it would simply make new poles like if you cut a magnet in 2, 4, 8 or 11 pieces, you get that many more small magnets. I have a few ceramic magnets that were overpowered by some neodymium magnet stuck to it, they now show many unwanted poles.

Cut my left arm and it wont make 2 mini Me...   

Take care,

Michel